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I'm having trouble squaring this data showing US emissions going down with the ever increasing consumption I see all around me in everyday life. I just don't bu

I'm having trouble squaring this data showing US emissions going down with the ever increasing consumption I see all around me in everyday life. I just don't buy it at face value.

gonzo41 3y ago
The only values you should track is co2 and ch4 ppm in the atmosphere. They are both steadily marching up.
vanillax 3y ago
Your opinion and observations are not facts. Either global warming is real because the data shows it or you are ignoring the data with your own bias. Pick one.
sanxiyn 3y ago
Consumption is not emission. We are in fact making much more efficient use of energy.
Qwertious 3y ago
>I'm having trouble squaring this data showing US emissions going down with the ever increasing consumption I see all around me in everyday life. You're assuming that individual consumption is the primary source of emissions, instead of relatively invisible-to-the-consumer industrial processes. Which is understandable, because BP, Exxon etc have all poured billions of dollars into creating that misconception, into convincing everyone that to solve climate change, the average consumer must research how much coal was burned to produce that Twix before they buy it. In practice, the carbon emissions of any particular good can vary wildly, and are quite opaque (by design, as no corporation wants to advertise their shortcomings in support of a "buy less stuff!" movement).
- sanxiyn 3y ago
  Individual consumption is in fact one of primary sources of emissions. That's not BP or Exxon propaganda, see what EPA says about it: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis... Transportation is 28%, and industry is 23%. US in fact drives larger cars like SUV and cars with worse fuel efficiency. This is directly reflected in higher per capita emission of US compared to Europe.
reducesuffering 3y ago
Most cars used to get 12 mpg https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1237-may-9-2022-fuel-economy-all-vehicle-classes-has-improved https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1237-may-...

I'm having trouble squaring this data showing US emissions going down with the ever increasing consumption I see all around me in everyday life. I just don't buy it at face value.

gonzo41 3y ago

The only values you should track is co2 and ch4 ppm in the atmosphere. They are both steadily marching up.

vanillax 3y ago

Your opinion and observations are not facts. Either global warming is real because the data shows it or you are ignoring the data with your own bias. Pick one.

sanxiyn 3y ago

Consumption is not emission. We are in fact making much more efficient use of energy.

Qwertious 3y ago

>I'm having trouble squaring this data showing US emissions going down with the ever increasing consumption I see all around me in everyday life. You're assuming that individual consumption is the primary source of emissions, instead of relatively invisible-to-the-consumer industrial processes. Which is understandable, because BP, Exxon etc have all poured billions of dollars into creating that misconception, into convincing everyone that to solve climate change, the average consumer must research how much coal was burned to produce that Twix before they buy it. In practice, the carbon emissions of any particular good can vary wildly, and are quite opaque (by design, as no corporation wants to advertise their shortcomings in support of a "buy less stuff!" movement).

sanxiyn 3y ago
Individual consumption is in fact one of primary sources of emissions. That's not BP or Exxon propaganda, see what EPA says about it: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis... Transportation is 28%, and industry is 23%. US in fact drives larger cars like SUV and cars with worse fuel efficiency. This is directly reflected in higher per capita emission of US compared to Europe.

reducesuffering 3y ago

Most cars used to get 12 mpg https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1237-may-9-2022-fuel-economy-all-vehicle-classes-has-improved https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1237-may-...