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We really need to stop driving cars. We are killing our home. I'm not being overly dramatic. If we don't stop now... And for what? Some comfort? Some more p

We really need to stop driving cars. We are killing our home. I'm not being overly dramatic. If we don't stop now... And for what? Some comfort? Some more profits for the few? We will not solve this by continuing the way we lived for the last 100 years

King-Aaron 3y ago
Unfortunately personal cars are a drop in the ocean (ignore any pun please) compared to other systems like the military, commercial shipping, air travel etc etc. There needs to be a coordinated effort to de-carbonize and focusing on impacting peoples personal comfort as the first step isn't going to work particularly well when folks know they aren't the primary contributors to the issue.
- NumberWangMan 3y ago
  I wouldn't call them a drop in the ocean. You're right that personal cars are only one of many emissions sources, though. Ideally, we should try to reduce emissions as much as possible in every way possible, prioritizing those that don't reduce standards of living, but to the degree that we need to, say, drive less, we should do that too. I honestly think that most peoples lives would be better, not if they just drove less with all else being the same, but if our cities and towns were changed in such a way that we didn't NEED to drive nearly as much. The less driving we need to do, the easier it is to decarbonize it. To be tongue-in-cheek: just tax carbon lol.
- myshpa 3y ago
  > personal cars are a drop in the ocean (ignore any pun please) compared to other systems like the military, commercial shipping, air travel etc etc. Or animal agriculture.
- lm28469 3y ago
  Everything is a drop in the ocean if you split them in ever smaller categories
- helsinkiandrew 3y ago
  > Unfortunately personal cars are a drop in the ocean (ignore any pun please) compared to other systems like the..... Not disagreeing with you, but everything by itself is a drop in the ocean compared with the total - the "coordinated effort to de-carbonize" starts with doing what's possible and reducing CO2 use of land travel is a lot easier than for the military, commercial shipping, and air travel at the moment.
RGamma 3y ago
Optimistic side note: It's gonna evolve back after our industrialized presence is gone which will be in just a few centuries at most. Perhaps we will "achieve" it this century already!

King-Aaron 3y ago

Unfortunately personal cars are a drop in the ocean (ignore any pun please) compared to other systems like the military, commercial shipping, air travel etc etc. There needs to be a coordinated effort to de-carbonize and focusing on impacting peoples personal comfort as the first step isn't going to work particularly well when folks know they aren't the primary contributors to the issue.

NumberWangMan 3y ago
I wouldn't call them a drop in the ocean. You're right that personal cars are only one of many emissions sources, though. Ideally, we should try to reduce emissions as much as possible in every way possible, prioritizing those that don't reduce standards of living, but to the degree that we need to, say, drive less, we should do that too. I honestly think that most peoples lives would be better, not if they just drove less with all else being the same, but if our cities and towns were changed in such a way that we didn't NEED to drive nearly as much. The less driving we need to do, the easier it is to decarbonize it. To be tongue-in-cheek: just tax carbon lol.
myshpa 3y ago
> personal cars are a drop in the ocean (ignore any pun please) compared to other systems like the military, commercial shipping, air travel etc etc. Or animal agriculture.
lm28469 3y ago
Everything is a drop in the ocean if you split them in ever smaller categories
helsinkiandrew 3y ago
> Unfortunately personal cars are a drop in the ocean (ignore any pun please) compared to other systems like the..... Not disagreeing with you, but everything by itself is a drop in the ocean compared with the total - the "coordinated effort to de-carbonize" starts with doing what's possible and reducing CO2 use of land travel is a lot easier than for the military, commercial shipping, and air travel at the moment.

RGamma 3y ago

Optimistic side note: It's gonna evolve back after our industrialized presence is gone which will be in just a few centuries at most. Perhaps we will "achieve" it this century already!