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> and it is pretty obvious, they are just doing it to get points Gamifying reputation was one of the worst things we've done. I was part of this in previous po

> and it is pretty obvious, they are just doing it to get points Gamifying reputation was one of the worst things we've done. I was part of this in previous positions and after a while it became apparent that it brought out the worst in people. There are better ways of incentivizing usage rather than stupid internet points.

woleium 3y ago
I'm not sure if up voting this comment is appropriate, but I wholeheartedly agree
- brodouevencode 3y ago
  Please don’t
glaucon 3y ago
>Gamifying reputation was one of the worst things Agreed and I don't know this for sure but the points lust, it seems to me, is not limited to questioners and answers, some of the behaviour I've seen from mods seems to be driven by that too. Just to repeat, I don't know that because I don't know what gets you points but the behaviour is hard to understand otherwise. I had a question where I had finished with a one word sentence "Thanks." . A mod had removed that part of the question, when I looked at their record they had an awful lot of edits which consisted of similar, tiny, non-substantive changes. It did make me wonder about their motivation. Anyway, yes, imho gamification not a good idea.
- jodrellblank 3y ago
  > "I had a question where I had finished with a one word sentence "Thanks." . A mod had removed that part of the question, when I looked at their record they had an awful lot of edits which consisted of similar, tiny, non-substantive changes. It did make me wonder about their motivation." https://stackoverflow.com/help/behavior https://stackoverflow.com/help/behavior "Do not use signature, taglines, greetings, thanks, or other chitchat. "Every post you make is already “signed” with your standard user card, which links directly back to your user page. Your user page belongs to you, so fill it with information about your interests, links to stuff you’ve worked on, or whatever else you like!" "Thanks and other statements of appreciation are unnecessary, and, like other chitchat, should not be included." "If you use signatures, taglines, greetings, thanks, or other chitchat, they will be removed to reduce noise in the questions and answers." ---- Removing it doesn't get the editor any points, they are spending their time cleaning up your question to site standards for no reward at all. https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260776/should-i-remove-fluff-like-greetings-signatures-thanks-etc-when-editin https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260776/should-i-rem...
  - DangitBobby 3y ago
    Seems like a non-issue not warranting an edit practically ever. Very irritating policy.
  - thackerhacker 3y ago
    I asked about this 10 years ago and look at the sarcasm I received in response. https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/142703 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/142703
    - jodrellblank 3y ago
      What would you think if you clicked on a Wikipedia article about Mozart and instead of the current introduction which says: > Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart[a][b] (27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791) was a prolific and influential composer of the Classical period. Despite his short life, his rapid pace of composition resulted in more than 800 works of virtually every genre of his time. it opened with: > Hello everyone, I studied classical music in college but have been out of the scene for a while and now I'm getting back in, I was wondering about the history of Mozart and I remember that his middle name was Allen or Almond or something? Can anyone help? Thanks for any information. || Hi, I learned about him in middle school and we all joked that his middle name was Armadillo but I think that's wrong, haha. || Greets all, it's in Olivier Hallengrunsch's Classical Composers as 'Amadeus', and that's well regarded. It also says he lived (27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791). I think we can all agree he was prolific, right? Thanks and regards, Jason [xxKiller; AMD Ryzen2 32GB RAM 2TB Western Digital SSD; BMW 330 2l aircooled] || Why's nobody mentioning how short that life was, smh || Good evening all and sundry, m'lady (tips hat), forsooth would anyone speak to how many works he is believed to have composed, all considered? Methinks such knowledge would be a most hearty addition to this esteemed gentleman's biography - Martin, [Fort Lauderdale TX Ren. Faire organiser 1997-1997] || etc. StackOverflow isn't a forum, it's a collaborative reference work. Meta-chat would be edited out of a wikipedia page and goes on a separate 'talk' page (equivalent: meta stackexchanges or the stackexchange chat). What if you then went to the Wikipedia talk page and said "Is overzealous moderation of questions ruining Wikipedia? I want to be able to edit questions and greetings into pages but there are hoards of awful literal-minded jobsworths cruising the site just looking for the slightest reason to edit a spelling or grammar mistake or revert my changes. It just leaves me feeling unwelcome"? Why would you expect to feel welcome when you're spoiling what others are trying to build up and insulting them for caring??
svieira 3y ago
What are the best ways of externally incentivizing usage that aren't numeric that you know of or think would be worth looking into?

woleium 3y ago

I'm not sure if up voting this comment is appropriate, but I wholeheartedly agree

brodouevencode 3y ago
Please don’t

glaucon 3y ago

>Gamifying reputation was one of the worst things Agreed and I don't know this for sure but the points lust, it seems to me, is not limited to questioners and answers, some of the behaviour I've seen from mods seems to be driven by that too. Just to repeat, I don't know that because I don't know what gets you points but the behaviour is hard to understand otherwise. I had a question where I had finished with a one word sentence "Thanks." . A mod had removed that part of the question, when I looked at their record they had an awful lot of edits which consisted of similar, tiny, non-substantive changes. It did make me wonder about their motivation. Anyway, yes, imho gamification not a good idea.

jodrellblank 3y ago
> "I had a question where I had finished with a one word sentence "Thanks." . A mod had removed that part of the question, when I looked at their record they had an awful lot of edits which consisted of similar, tiny, non-substantive changes. It did make me wonder about their motivation." https://stackoverflow.com/help/behavior https://stackoverflow.com/help/behavior "Do not use signature, taglines, greetings, thanks, or other chitchat. "Every post you make is already “signed” with your standard user card, which links directly back to your user page. Your user page belongs to you, so fill it with information about your interests, links to stuff you’ve worked on, or whatever else you like!" "Thanks and other statements of appreciation are unnecessary, and, like other chitchat, should not be included." "If you use signatures, taglines, greetings, thanks, or other chitchat, they will be removed to reduce noise in the questions and answers." ---- Removing it doesn't get the editor any points, they are spending their time cleaning up your question to site standards for no reward at all. https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260776/should-i-remove-fluff-like-greetings-signatures-thanks-etc-when-editin https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260776/should-i-rem...
- DangitBobby 3y ago
  Seems like a non-issue not warranting an edit practically ever. Very irritating policy.
- thackerhacker 3y ago
  I asked about this 10 years ago and look at the sarcasm I received in response. https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/142703 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/142703
  - jodrellblank 3y ago
    What would you think if you clicked on a Wikipedia article about Mozart and instead of the current introduction which says: > Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart[a][b] (27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791) was a prolific and influential composer of the Classical period. Despite his short life, his rapid pace of composition resulted in more than 800 works of virtually every genre of his time. it opened with: > Hello everyone, I studied classical music in college but have been out of the scene for a while and now I'm getting back in, I was wondering about the history of Mozart and I remember that his middle name was Allen or Almond or something? Can anyone help? Thanks for any information. || Hi, I learned about him in middle school and we all joked that his middle name was Armadillo but I think that's wrong, haha. || Greets all, it's in Olivier Hallengrunsch's Classical Composers as 'Amadeus', and that's well regarded. It also says he lived (27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791). I think we can all agree he was prolific, right? Thanks and regards, Jason [xxKiller; AMD Ryzen2 32GB RAM 2TB Western Digital SSD; BMW 330 2l aircooled] || Why's nobody mentioning how short that life was, smh || Good evening all and sundry, m'lady (tips hat), forsooth would anyone speak to how many works he is believed to have composed, all considered? Methinks such knowledge would be a most hearty addition to this esteemed gentleman's biography - Martin, [Fort Lauderdale TX Ren. Faire organiser 1997-1997] || etc. StackOverflow isn't a forum, it's a collaborative reference work. Meta-chat would be edited out of a wikipedia page and goes on a separate 'talk' page (equivalent: meta stackexchanges or the stackexchange chat). What if you then went to the Wikipedia talk page and said "Is overzealous moderation of questions ruining Wikipedia? I want to be able to edit questions and greetings into pages but there are hoards of awful literal-minded jobsworths cruising the site just looking for the slightest reason to edit a spelling or grammar mistake or revert my changes. It just leaves me feeling unwelcome"? Why would you expect to feel welcome when you're spoiling what others are trying to build up and insulting them for caring??

svieira 3y ago

What are the best ways of externally incentivizing usage that aren't numeric that you know of or think would be worth looking into?