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I use tunnels to access my entire dev environment within my Quest Pro.

yaysyu 3y ago
How often and for how long do you code like this? What has your experience been like? I always find the idea of coding in VR intriguing but am unsure of what the actual experience would be like.
cubefox 3y ago
Does developing like this for an extended period of time actually work?
- hfkwer 3y ago
  What wouldn't work about it?
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Not being exhausted from eye strain or lack of focus.
cgijoe 3y ago
If you don't mind my asking, I am honestly curious about this. Is the QPro high enough resolution to do actual dev work inside it?
- nickstinemates 3y ago
  Not for me, and I am sad about it. I wish it was.
  - MuffinFlavored 3y ago
    What would the benefit of that be?
    - nickstinemates 3y ago
      The idea of this[1] working for me led me down a rabbit hole of all of the VR appliances in an effort to make it work. For me, getting into the flow of programming is as much about the environment as it is anything else. Scenery, keyboard, mouse, desktop environment, form factor, etc. I am peculiar about all of it depending on context (collab space vs. in transit vs. coffee shop vs. at home hacking) To have a device where I could be literally floating in space with all of the context surrounding me sounded like nirvana. Until you actually try it and the world is blurry, resolution is shitty, fonts look like garbage, etc. I've settled for a very large ultra wide monitor - 5120x1440@240hz resolution which takes up ~3 screens worth of horizontal space without the bevel. If I could get one twice as tall pixel and physical dimension wise I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I want so bad for it to work, but it doesn't. 1: https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d385 https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d...
      - cubefox 3y ago
        How likely do you think it is that it works with the Apple Vision?
        nickstinemates 3y ago
        I've become disillusioned at the prospect, will try again when there's significant breakthroughs.
      - Kon5ole 3y ago
        >If I could get one twice as tall pixel and physical dimension wise I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I can recommend using a 8k 55" TV as a monitor. They can sometimes be found for around 1000 USD and I am quite happy with mine after several years of use.
        nickstinemates 3y ago
        How far away do you sit from it and how curved is it (if at all)?
- zmmmmm 3y ago
  It's a very personal thing. Some people happily do it all day, others declare it a blurry mess. I'm somewhere in between. I enjoy doing stints of 1-2 hours in there just for a change of scenery and to help me focus. It's perfectly usable for me, but it's not as good as a real multimonitor setup in general. A key element is that although the resolution is lower than a real monitor, you get to make the monitor bigger. So the limit ends up being when you start having to turn your head to see what's on the other side of the monitor, which sounds benign but is an ergonomic disaster.
zmmmmm 3y ago
to clarify - are you saying you use the Quest browser to connect to the vscode.dev environment? Or do you use an app like Immersed with a desktop browser? Just curious if the Quest browser is powerful enough for it and works well enough.
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago
I use NordVPN meshnet tunnels to connect to everything. Even when VPN is blocked by DPI, meshnet tends to stay on.

How often and for how long do you code like this? What has your experience been like? I always find the idea of coding in VR intriguing but am unsure of what the actual experience would be like.

cubefox 3y ago

Does developing like this for an extended period of time actually work?

hfkwer 3y ago
What wouldn't work about it?
- cubefox 3y ago
  Not being exhausted from eye strain or lack of focus.

cgijoe 3y ago

If you don't mind my asking, I am honestly curious about this. Is the QPro high enough resolution to do actual dev work inside it?

nickstinemates 3y ago
Not for me, and I am sad about it. I wish it was.
- MuffinFlavored 3y ago
  What would the benefit of that be?
  - nickstinemates 3y ago
    The idea of this[1] working for me led me down a rabbit hole of all of the VR appliances in an effort to make it work. For me, getting into the flow of programming is as much about the environment as it is anything else. Scenery, keyboard, mouse, desktop environment, form factor, etc. I am peculiar about all of it depending on context (collab space vs. in transit vs. coffee shop vs. at home hacking) To have a device where I could be literally floating in space with all of the context surrounding me sounded like nirvana. Until you actually try it and the world is blurry, resolution is shitty, fonts look like garbage, etc. I've settled for a very large ultra wide monitor - 5120x1440@240hz resolution which takes up ~3 screens worth of horizontal space without the bevel. If I could get one twice as tall pixel and physical dimension wise I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I want so bad for it to work, but it doesn't. 1: https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d385 https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d...
    - cubefox 3y ago
      How likely do you think it is that it works with the Apple Vision?
      - nickstinemates 3y ago
        I've become disillusioned at the prospect, will try again when there's significant breakthroughs.
    - Kon5ole 3y ago
      >If I could get one twice as tall pixel and physical dimension wise I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I can recommend using a 8k 55" TV as a monitor. They can sometimes be found for around 1000 USD and I am quite happy with mine after several years of use.
      - nickstinemates 3y ago
        How far away do you sit from it and how curved is it (if at all)?
zmmmmm 3y ago
It's a very personal thing. Some people happily do it all day, others declare it a blurry mess. I'm somewhere in between. I enjoy doing stints of 1-2 hours in there just for a change of scenery and to help me focus. It's perfectly usable for me, but it's not as good as a real multimonitor setup in general. A key element is that although the resolution is lower than a real monitor, you get to make the monitor bigger. So the limit ends up being when you start having to turn your head to see what's on the other side of the monitor, which sounds benign but is an ergonomic disaster.

zmmmmm 3y ago

to clarify - are you saying you use the Quest browser to connect to the vscode.dev environment? Or do you use an app like Immersed with a desktop browser? Just curious if the Quest browser is powerful enough for it and works well enough.

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago

I use NordVPN meshnet tunnels to connect to everything. Even when VPN is blocked by DPI, meshnet tends to stay on.