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You don’t necessarily need to give it up, just eat less. It’s much cheaper, too! Cooking nice vegetarian food is more time consuming and you do need to learn n

You don’t necessarily need to give it up, just eat less. It’s much cheaper, too! Cooking nice vegetarian food is more time consuming and you do need to learn new techniques but they are just as delicious and fulfilling. I will say there is a certain visceral feeling with eating meat off a bone which I do occasionally miss (I have been vegetarian, except when I travel, for 8 years).

TexanFeller 3y ago
Vegetarian food can be astoundingly good for sure. I do have veg meals a few times a week, especially after finding an amazing Indian place nearby. Beyond meat cravings, I can't replace many meals with veg because no matter how much I eat I'm hungry again in half the time without meat in the mix. As you say veg can be cheaper to cook, but besides my local Indian place good veg food seems to only be available at overpriced restaurants.
- batiudrami 3y ago
  Definitely it can feel like restaurants are taking the piss charging the same for a vego main despite much much cheaper ingredients being used. My partner used to have the same complaints about vego food! The right recipes can be just as filling (a lot you come across incidentally may be designed to be “healthy” and therefore lower calorie). If you’re interested, “Flavour” by Yotam Ottolenghi is full of really excellent vegetarian food which is filling and isn’t very demanding on your cooking skills. But unavoidably, it does take more time to make a passable meal than a meat dish.
dzhiurgis 3y ago
> It’s much cheaper, too! IDK a single telegraph cucumber here is $4-6, tomatoes anywhere from $8-16. 1kg of chicken is $12 and you get order of magnitude more calories. Admittedly NZ had bad flooding recently hence the insane vegetable prices and you can find some cheap stuff, but it's hard. I've gone days without eating a single vegetable and feel my health going down the drain, but what can you do?
- batiudrami 3y ago
  Tomatoes and cucumbers are both summer vegetables so they’re out of season in NZ. Pumpkins, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, beetroot, carrots and potatoes are in season right now in the southern hemisphere. Our (2 person) grocery bill is around au$60-$70 per week which is less than half of what I hear from regular meat eaters.
- myshpa 3y ago
  Why is healthy food so expensive in America? Blame the Farm Bill that Congress always renews to make burgers cheaper than salad https://fortune.com/2023/07/21/why-healthy-food-so-expensive-in-america-blame-farm-bill-congress-always-renews-make-burgers-cheaper-salad-gene-baur/ https://fortune.com/2023/07/21/why-healthy-food-so-expensive... The 2023 Farm Bill is projected to spend $700 billion over the next five years, with powerful industry lobbyists directing funds to enrich themselves at the expense of agricultural communities, human health, animal welfare, and environmental sustainability. Most Americans have never heard of this massive omnibus bill, which Congress reauthorizes every five or so years, yet it impacts us every day. It shapes our food system–from subsidizing factory farms to funding food and nutrition programs, and it is why burgers are artificially cheap and salads cost more than they should.
reportgunner 3y ago
> You don’t necessarily need to give it up, just eat less. It’s much cheaper, too! This is honestly what turns me off about not eating meat the most. Dude literally said he would freeze in winter and sweat in the summer and give up his firstborn and you're like "it's cheaper yay !". It feels like a telemarketer on my phone trying to sell me something after I told them a resounding no.

TexanFeller 3y ago

Vegetarian food can be astoundingly good for sure. I do have veg meals a few times a week, especially after finding an amazing Indian place nearby. Beyond meat cravings, I can't replace many meals with veg because no matter how much I eat I'm hungry again in half the time without meat in the mix. As you say veg can be cheaper to cook, but besides my local Indian place good veg food seems to only be available at overpriced restaurants.

batiudrami 3y ago
Definitely it can feel like restaurants are taking the piss charging the same for a vego main despite much much cheaper ingredients being used. My partner used to have the same complaints about vego food! The right recipes can be just as filling (a lot you come across incidentally may be designed to be “healthy” and therefore lower calorie). If you’re interested, “Flavour” by Yotam Ottolenghi is full of really excellent vegetarian food which is filling and isn’t very demanding on your cooking skills. But unavoidably, it does take more time to make a passable meal than a meat dish.

dzhiurgis 3y ago

> It’s much cheaper, too! IDK a single telegraph cucumber here is $4-6, tomatoes anywhere from $8-16. 1kg of chicken is $12 and you get order of magnitude more calories. Admittedly NZ had bad flooding recently hence the insane vegetable prices and you can find some cheap stuff, but it's hard. I've gone days without eating a single vegetable and feel my health going down the drain, but what can you do?

batiudrami 3y ago
Tomatoes and cucumbers are both summer vegetables so they’re out of season in NZ. Pumpkins, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, beetroot, carrots and potatoes are in season right now in the southern hemisphere. Our (2 person) grocery bill is around au$60-$70 per week which is less than half of what I hear from regular meat eaters.
myshpa 3y ago
Why is healthy food so expensive in America? Blame the Farm Bill that Congress always renews to make burgers cheaper than salad https://fortune.com/2023/07/21/why-healthy-food-so-expensive-in-america-blame-farm-bill-congress-always-renews-make-burgers-cheaper-salad-gene-baur/ https://fortune.com/2023/07/21/why-healthy-food-so-expensive... The 2023 Farm Bill is projected to spend $700 billion over the next five years, with powerful industry lobbyists directing funds to enrich themselves at the expense of agricultural communities, human health, animal welfare, and environmental sustainability. Most Americans have never heard of this massive omnibus bill, which Congress reauthorizes every five or so years, yet it impacts us every day. It shapes our food system–from subsidizing factory farms to funding food and nutrition programs, and it is why burgers are artificially cheap and salads cost more than they should.

reportgunner 3y ago

> You don’t necessarily need to give it up, just eat less. It’s much cheaper, too! This is honestly what turns me off about not eating meat the most. Dude literally said he would freeze in winter and sweat in the summer and give up his firstborn and you're like "it's cheaper yay !". It feels like a telemarketer on my phone trying to sell me something after I told them a resounding no.