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> Standard Character Claim: No > Mark Drawing Type: 1 - TYPESET WORD(S) /LETTER(S) /NUMBER(S) They do not own the trademark for the letter "X" (that would m

> Standard Character Claim: No > Mark Drawing Type: 1 - TYPESET WORD(S) /LETTER(S) /NUMBER(S) They do not own the trademark for the letter "X" (that would make a "Standard Character Claim") but the very specific typeset, as featured on the right side of the linked page. Here [1] it patents a specific illustration format of X. Again no standard character claim. So no issue for former twitter, as you can easily see the typeset is very different. I do not know if there is any precedent of a standard character claim for a single letter, but that would really sound ridiculous to me tbh. [1] https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87980831&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87980831&caseType=SERIAL_...

ehhthing 3y ago
https://trademarkgarden.com/2018/03/09/amazon-and-you/ https://trademarkgarden.com/2018/03/09/amazon-and-you/ The two are equivalent.
- lolinder 3y ago
  No, they aren't, and your source doesn't say they are. This is your source's description of the type of trademark that Meta has on X (AN ILLUSTRATION DRAWING WITH WORD(S) /LETTER(S)/ NUMBER(S) INSTYLIZED FORM): > This Type is similar to “STANDARD CHARACTER MARK” in that it can only include words or phrases, and not images, however it does include a claim as to the particular stylization (font) and may, but do not have to, claim color. For example, the trademark “NETFLIX” written in stylized red font. Edit: The source below is a bit more clear on the differences. https://www.mavenip.com/blog/standard-character-mark-or-logo-design-mark/ https://www.mavenip.com/blog/standard-character-mark-or-logo...
  - PeterCorless 3y ago
    At least Meta made a unique mark. "𝕏" is a mathematical symbol, known as a doublestruck, or blackboard bold, letter X. You can't get trademark on a mathematical symbol, generally. https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D54F https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D54F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_bold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_bold Such a letter 𝕏 is sometimes used to represent arbitrary or generic metric space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space There is already another Hacker News thread that is dealing with this specific symbol: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846076
  - ehhthing 3y ago
    Not talking about Meta's X, talking about Microsoft's X
- freehorse 3y ago
  It seems that indeed the "1 typed drawing" code is some sort of older version of the "4 standard character mark" code, it was a bit confusing [1]. Still I am unconvinced that this is enforceable in scale apart from protecting them from somebody else basically imitating their x-box services with a fake website or app. It seems that they have a very narrow scope of what it is about (chats/messages etc around gaming). [1] https://www.docdroid.net/file/download/Ix0YicK/trademarks-rules-and-how-to-search-for-trademarks-pdf.pdf https://www.docdroid.net/file/download/Ix0YicK/trademarks-ru...

ehhthing 3y ago

https://trademarkgarden.com/2018/03/09/amazon-and-you/ https://trademarkgarden.com/2018/03/09/amazon-and-you/ The two are equivalent.

lolinder 3y ago
No, they aren't, and your source doesn't say they are. This is your source's description of the type of trademark that Meta has on X (AN ILLUSTRATION DRAWING WITH WORD(S) /LETTER(S)/ NUMBER(S) INSTYLIZED FORM): > This Type is similar to “STANDARD CHARACTER MARK” in that it can only include words or phrases, and not images, however it does include a claim as to the particular stylization (font) and may, but do not have to, claim color. For example, the trademark “NETFLIX” written in stylized red font. Edit: The source below is a bit more clear on the differences. https://www.mavenip.com/blog/standard-character-mark-or-logo-design-mark/ https://www.mavenip.com/blog/standard-character-mark-or-logo...
- PeterCorless 3y ago
  At least Meta made a unique mark. "𝕏" is a mathematical symbol, known as a doublestruck, or blackboard bold, letter X. You can't get trademark on a mathematical symbol, generally. https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D54F https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D54F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_bold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_bold Such a letter 𝕏 is sometimes used to represent arbitrary or generic metric space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space There is already another Hacker News thread that is dealing with this specific symbol: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846076
- ehhthing 3y ago
  Not talking about Meta's X, talking about Microsoft's X
freehorse 3y ago
It seems that indeed the "1 typed drawing" code is some sort of older version of the "4 standard character mark" code, it was a bit confusing [1]. Still I am unconvinced that this is enforceable in scale apart from protecting them from somebody else basically imitating their x-box services with a fake website or app. It seems that they have a very narrow scope of what it is about (chats/messages etc around gaming). [1] https://www.docdroid.net/file/download/Ix0YicK/trademarks-rules-and-how-to-search-for-trademarks-pdf.pdf https://www.docdroid.net/file/download/Ix0YicK/trademarks-ru...