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JSON Feed: An Atom/RSS feed alternative

13 points by nateb2022 3y ago

catsarebetter 3y ago
Is there a way to add terms of service to the json feed? Effectively it's a firehose GET command and that's tricky to open up publicly without some kind of checks and balances: rate limiting, docs, TOS, etc.
- CharlesW 3y ago
  In practice, this doesn't seem to be a problem. Clients are generally smart about using HTTP conditional requests to minimize transfer.
robobro 3y ago
I know npr uses it, but who else really does? I'm happy enough with atom feeds for now tbh.
- nateb2022 3y ago
  hnrss.org (https://hnrss.github.io/ https://hnrss.github.io/) provides a JSON feed version for every feed, just append .jsonfeed to any endpoint. known (https://withknown.com/ https://withknown.com/) also provides JSON feeds micro.blog (https://micro.blog/ https://micro.blog/) does as well wordpress also has plugins available that generate JSON feeds
cosmotic 3y ago
> less prone to bugs Citation needed. With XML validation, auto-generated type-safe serialization, and decades of battle testing, I feel like XML would be less buggy than JSON.
- srgpqt 3y ago
  Or so you would think, but malformed or invalid xml is so commonplace, that most good feed readers use very lax or forgiving xml parsers. I’ve never seen such issues with JSON in practice.
- captn3m0 3y ago
  XML feeds are often generated by templating, rather than actual XML serialisation. The official Jekyll Feed plugin has this: https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll-feed/blob/master/lib/jekyll-feed/feed.xml https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll-feed/blob/master/lib/jekyll... JSON is much more easily generated by a valid generator, and less likely to face serialisation issues.
fbdab103 3y ago
We could not even get the world to fully transition to the superior Atom format.
CharlesW 3y ago
Introduced in 2017 and updated in 2020, I think this is mostly an interesting footnote at this point. Open podcasting efforts continue to evolve on RSS (thanks to RSS namespace extensibility) through industry groups like Podcasting 2.0 and Podcast Standards Project.

13 points by nateb2022 3y ago

Is there a way to add terms of service to the json feed? Effectively it's a firehose GET command and that's tricky to open up publicly without some kind of checks and balances: rate limiting, docs, TOS, etc.

CharlesW 3y ago
In practice, this doesn't seem to be a problem. Clients are generally smart about using HTTP conditional requests to minimize transfer.

robobro 3y ago

I know npr uses it, but who else really does? I'm happy enough with atom feeds for now tbh.

nateb2022 3y ago
hnrss.org (https://hnrss.github.io/ https://hnrss.github.io/) provides a JSON feed version for every feed, just append .jsonfeed to any endpoint. known (https://withknown.com/ https://withknown.com/) also provides JSON feeds micro.blog (https://micro.blog/ https://micro.blog/) does as well wordpress also has plugins available that generate JSON feeds

cosmotic 3y ago

> less prone to bugs Citation needed. With XML validation, auto-generated type-safe serialization, and decades of battle testing, I feel like XML would be less buggy than JSON.

srgpqt 3y ago
Or so you would think, but malformed or invalid xml is so commonplace, that most good feed readers use very lax or forgiving xml parsers. I’ve never seen such issues with JSON in practice.
captn3m0 3y ago
XML feeds are often generated by templating, rather than actual XML serialisation. The official Jekyll Feed plugin has this: https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll-feed/blob/master/lib/jekyll-feed/feed.xml https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll-feed/blob/master/lib/jekyll... JSON is much more easily generated by a valid generator, and less likely to face serialisation issues.

fbdab103 3y ago

We could not even get the world to fully transition to the superior Atom format.

CharlesW 3y ago

Introduced in 2017 and updated in 2020, I think this is mostly an interesting footnote at this point. Open podcasting efforts continue to evolve on RSS (thanks to RSS namespace extensibility) through industry groups like Podcasting 2.0 and Podcast Standards Project.