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"Safety issues" are to him more like, "the AI will kill everyone to fill its objectives" and less like, "deepfakes are concerning." Though I'm sure he hopped o

by Zetice 3y ago

"Safety issues" are to him more like, "the AI will kill everyone to fill its objectives" and less like, "deepfakes are concerning." Though I'm sure he hopped on the "deepfakes are bad" bandwagon at some point to further his time in the spotlight.

cubefox 3y ago
> "Safety issues" are to him more like, "the AI will kill everyone to fill its objectives" Yes, and he was way ahead of the curve here, since similar positions got a lot more mainstream in the past years and months. E.g. two of three AI Turing award winners (Hinton and Bengio) now say that superintelligent AI poses a serious extinction risk. OpenAI has also identified the alignment problem as a major issue. Even former AI skeptics like Douglas Hofstadter now broadly agree with this assessment. Yudkowsky's opinion was quite prescient.
- Zetice 3y ago
  So in other words, people who've spent their entire lives thinking and talking about AI praise other people who also have spent their entire lives thinking and talking about AI. This is a bubble conversation that makes no sense to people outside of that bubble, and for good reason; it doesn't matter outside of that bubble.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    No, AI experts which formerly were skeptical of an outsider's (Yudkowsky's) opinion, now changed their mind about it.
    - Zetice 3y ago
      Wait, so you deny the fact that Hinton and Bengio have worked on AI their entire careers?
      - cubefox 3y ago
        No, I don't, why do you think that?
        Zetice 3y ago
        Because you said “no”, and I only said one thing. Do you take that back?
        cubefox 3y ago
        I was disagreeing with it being about experts "praising" each other.
        Zetice 3y ago
        No you weren't, you were choosing to focus on a different category to which these people belonged in an ultimately non sequitur comment.
        CatWChainsaw 3y ago
        That's so embarrassingly obtuse I refuse to believe you aren't aware and are just being contrarian.
        Zetice 3y ago
        Not obtuse at all, just catching rhetorical trickery.
- janalsncm 3y ago
  None of those people you mentioned share Yudkowsky’s conclusion that air strikes against data centers are warranted.
  - hollerith 3y ago
    Do you have a citation for that? I know how to find the statements by Hinton and Benigo that superintelligent AI poses a serious extinction risk, but I can't find any statements by Hinton and Benigo--or anyone who is taking the risk seriously--suggesting that air strikes would not be warranted, so any clues on where to look would be appreciated.

by Zetice 3y ago

cubefox 3y ago

> "Safety issues" are to him more like, "the AI will kill everyone to fill its objectives" Yes, and he was way ahead of the curve here, since similar positions got a lot more mainstream in the past years and months. E.g. two of three AI Turing award winners (Hinton and Bengio) now say that superintelligent AI poses a serious extinction risk. OpenAI has also identified the alignment problem as a major issue. Even former AI skeptics like Douglas Hofstadter now broadly agree with this assessment. Yudkowsky's opinion was quite prescient.

Zetice 3y ago
So in other words, people who've spent their entire lives thinking and talking about AI praise other people who also have spent their entire lives thinking and talking about AI. This is a bubble conversation that makes no sense to people outside of that bubble, and for good reason; it doesn't matter outside of that bubble.
- cubefox 3y ago
  No, AI experts which formerly were skeptical of an outsider's (Yudkowsky's) opinion, now changed their mind about it.
  - Zetice 3y ago
    Wait, so you deny the fact that Hinton and Bengio have worked on AI their entire careers?
    - cubefox 3y ago
      No, I don't, why do you think that?
      - Zetice 3y ago
        Because you said “no”, and I only said one thing. Do you take that back?
        cubefox 3y ago
        I was disagreeing with it being about experts "praising" each other.
        Zetice 3y ago
        No you weren't, you were choosing to focus on a different category to which these people belonged in an ultimately non sequitur comment.
        CatWChainsaw 3y ago
        That's so embarrassingly obtuse I refuse to believe you aren't aware and are just being contrarian.
        Zetice 3y ago
        Not obtuse at all, just catching rhetorical trickery.
janalsncm 3y ago
None of those people you mentioned share Yudkowsky’s conclusion that air strikes against data centers are warranted.
- hollerith 3y ago
  Do you have a citation for that? I know how to find the statements by Hinton and Benigo that superintelligent AI poses a serious extinction risk, but I can't find any statements by Hinton and Benigo--or anyone who is taking the risk seriously--suggesting that air strikes would not be warranted, so any clues on where to look would be appreciated.