4 ms·

But also now I have a magical machine in my pocket where I can tap the screen a few times and get a book read to me sped up to my optimal input speed. Those tw

But also now I have a magical machine in my pocket where I can tap the screen a few times and get a book read to me sped up to my optimal input speed. Those two things (audiobooks on my phone, the default feature to enable play at 2x-3x speed) have vastly increased the information I absorb. Now if only someone could come up with a screen/document reader with a decent text-to-speech and decent content filtering, it would be truly magical (read just the bulk text not and don't vocalize every single piece of text, most of which are major distractions to flow and don't need to be read) Part of the reason I'm learning a bunch of ML things is so I can make this for myself. On that topic, does anyone know of a really good, open, text to speech model? All of the ones I have been able to find have ranged between garbage and mediocre, none near "good enough" for the thing to be useful to me.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
You can listen and understand faster than you can read and understand? I am far quicker at reading than listening.
- trailingComma 3y ago
  Some people are visual learners. Some people are auditory learners.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - teddyh 3y ago
    No they aren’t; that’s been debunked: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Learning_styles&oldid=1156699831 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Learning_styles&o...
- rustyminnow 3y ago
  Though reading is more efficient, perhaps they just have more time to listen to audiobooks to the point it is more total information gathered. Multi-tasking for the win!
- wtetzner 3y ago
  Depends on whether or not you have the time to read. Listening to audio books can be done while walking, vacuuming, etc. Also while commuting, where reading might cause motion sickness.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  Yes, sort of. While I can utilize speed-reading techniques for some content somewhat faster than I can listen, it is an all-hands-on-deck situation attention wise and extremely sensitive to interruption. On the other hand I can push 3x or faster depending on the narrator for audio content in most situations and 2x while doing nearly anything (the only exceptions being literally trying to carry on a conversation with a person or driving fast on a mountain switchback road). I don't do "ordinary" reading particularly well due to my own brand of vision issues + ADHD/neurodivergence/whatever label is in vogue. This is a bit sad for me, but I've obviously got workarounds.
dv35z 3y ago
I used Amazon Polly (text to speech engine) on a project a few years ago - the “neural” voices were decent. I’ve since heard much better synthetic voice engines, but don’t know names. What’s the best quality one you have found recently?
- colechristensen 3y ago
  My interests are in local inference, so a service like Amazon Polly doesn't fit my needs. I haven't tried anything so far that I actually liked so my answer to "what's the best quality I have found?" is none. The reverse though, OpenAI's Whisper for speech to text has been amazing, far exceeding my expectations. Having just looked again I found a list at huggingface that I will be poking through in my spare time soon. https://huggingface.co/models?pipeline_tag=text-to-speech&sort=downloads https://huggingface.co/models?pipeline_tag=text-to-speech&so...
smukherjee19 3y ago
That's an interesting take on having books read to you! I am genuinely curious though: what do you do with the information you absorb? Are you able to retain all of it and use it at will? If so, do you have any tips on how to do that?
- colechristensen 3y ago
  Keep notes on the things i really want to keep, some details and random facts that happen to trigger my memory, and a general sense of the work with most of the rest of the details faded away. Also, you know, entertainment. No I don’t have eidetic or whatever the version of that is for audio or text. Closer to it when I was younger than I am now. I have a feeling this is something you can train with effort but not exactly sure what that effort is or if I have the motivation to try it. To remember the most out of reading you have to engage with the material. Keep notes while reading or after, try to summarize what you have read after each session of reading or at the end of each chapter or each day. Ask questions about the material. Physically write these notes and questions down, ideally with actual pens and paper. Additionally engage with other people about what you have read vocally. Reading, writing, and speech engage different but connected pieces of your brain. Engaging with material in multiple modes reinforces memory from multiple directions as does the practice of summarizing, questioning, and discussing. Gets you into somewhat subconscious habits of paying attention to material differently. But also, not everything is worth remembering. If I need a recording of the material i already have it on paper or an audio file, it doesn’t have to be accessible to my consciousness from my own memory when it’s just right there easily found.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

You can listen and understand faster than you can read and understand? I am far quicker at reading than listening.

trailingComma 3y ago
Some people are visual learners. Some people are auditory learners.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- teddyh 3y ago
  No they aren’t; that’s been debunked: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Learning_styles&oldid=1156699831 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Learning_styles&o...
rustyminnow 3y ago
Though reading is more efficient, perhaps they just have more time to listen to audiobooks to the point it is more total information gathered. Multi-tasking for the win!
wtetzner 3y ago
Depends on whether or not you have the time to read. Listening to audio books can be done while walking, vacuuming, etc. Also while commuting, where reading might cause motion sickness.
colechristensen 3y ago
Yes, sort of. While I can utilize speed-reading techniques for some content somewhat faster than I can listen, it is an all-hands-on-deck situation attention wise and extremely sensitive to interruption. On the other hand I can push 3x or faster depending on the narrator for audio content in most situations and 2x while doing nearly anything (the only exceptions being literally trying to carry on a conversation with a person or driving fast on a mountain switchback road). I don't do "ordinary" reading particularly well due to my own brand of vision issues + ADHD/neurodivergence/whatever label is in vogue. This is a bit sad for me, but I've obviously got workarounds.

dv35z 3y ago

I used Amazon Polly (text to speech engine) on a project a few years ago - the “neural” voices were decent. I’ve since heard much better synthetic voice engines, but don’t know names. What’s the best quality one you have found recently?

colechristensen 3y ago
My interests are in local inference, so a service like Amazon Polly doesn't fit my needs. I haven't tried anything so far that I actually liked so my answer to "what's the best quality I have found?" is none. The reverse though, OpenAI's Whisper for speech to text has been amazing, far exceeding my expectations. Having just looked again I found a list at huggingface that I will be poking through in my spare time soon. https://huggingface.co/models?pipeline_tag=text-to-speech&sort=downloads https://huggingface.co/models?pipeline_tag=text-to-speech&so...

smukherjee19 3y ago

That's an interesting take on having books read to you! I am genuinely curious though: what do you do with the information you absorb? Are you able to retain all of it and use it at will? If so, do you have any tips on how to do that?

colechristensen 3y ago
Keep notes on the things i really want to keep, some details and random facts that happen to trigger my memory, and a general sense of the work with most of the rest of the details faded away. Also, you know, entertainment. No I don’t have eidetic or whatever the version of that is for audio or text. Closer to it when I was younger than I am now. I have a feeling this is something you can train with effort but not exactly sure what that effort is or if I have the motivation to try it. To remember the most out of reading you have to engage with the material. Keep notes while reading or after, try to summarize what you have read after each session of reading or at the end of each chapter or each day. Ask questions about the material. Physically write these notes and questions down, ideally with actual pens and paper. Additionally engage with other people about what you have read vocally. Reading, writing, and speech engage different but connected pieces of your brain. Engaging with material in multiple modes reinforces memory from multiple directions as does the practice of summarizing, questioning, and discussing. Gets you into somewhat subconscious habits of paying attention to material differently. But also, not everything is worth remembering. If I need a recording of the material i already have it on paper or an audio file, it doesn’t have to be accessible to my consciousness from my own memory when it’s just right there easily found.