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OpenAI absolutely does not have licenses for 99%+ of the content used to build their models. They're following the standard tech company model of "negotiate for
by CharlesW 3y ago
OpenAI absolutely does not have licenses for 99%+ of the content used to build their models. They're following the standard tech company model of "negotiate forgiveness rather than ask for permission".
- wing-_-nuts 3y agoYep, my understanding is that one of their datasets is basically the ebook dump of z-lib. Honestly, they're likely to get away with training on copyrighted work unless someone can get the LLMs to spit out whole pages of copyrighted material. I don't even think small excerpts would be breaking fair use
- wpietri 3y agoThis is big enough, though, that we'll likely see new laws made in response, the same way the rise of the internet caused previously ambiguous things to get clear laws around it. So I think they also thought they could force the ambiguity to resolve in their direction with a combination of "facts on the ground" and a big budget for lobbying and litigation.
- srveale 3y agoI remember a thread a while back where someone found out that ChatGPT refused to output the "litany against fear" from Dune. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36374429 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36374429
- wpietri 3y agoExactly. When you have enough money, you think laws are for other people, as with Uber or cryptocurrency. The legal status of copyright in this context is unclear, because the laws were written without imitation machines in mind. Presumably they blew right on by "is this right?" and went for "can we get away with this and pay less in fines than we'd make in profits?" As long as there's a 51% chance of that being the case, they saw it as worth a go.