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If only Israel had a constitutional laws. In lack of the only democracy keeper is the supreme court

by cooloo 3y ago

maratc 3y ago
Israel has Basic Laws in lieu of Constitution, and Barak has declared the body of Basic Laws to be a Constitution. UK, notably, also has no constitution — it however wouldn't be reasonable to argue that "the only democracy keeper [in the UK] is the supreme court".
- tivert 3y ago
  > UK, notably, also has no constitution — it however wouldn't be reasonable to argue that "the only democracy keeper [in the UK] is the supreme court". Exactly. IIRC, the UK didn't have anything called a "Supreme Court" until very recently (its highest "court" used to be a committee in the upper house of parliament), and even then it's clearly subordination to Parliament: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Ki...: > The United Kingdom has a doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty,[6] so the Supreme Court is much more limited in its powers of judicial review than the constitutional or supreme courts of some other countries. It cannot overturn any primary legislation [Acts of Parliament] made by Parliament. However, as with any law court in the UK, it can overturn secondary legislation [an American translation may be executive orders and agency regulations] if, for an example, that legislation is found to be ultra vires to the powers in primary legislation allowing it to be made.
- fortzi 3y ago
  Basic Law in Israel is made in the same process as regular law, so it can't be relied upon for depending the public from the regime. The UK is a monarchy, so... In all seriousness, I don't know enough about UK law and government structure, but if I take what you said in face value, it may very well be that the UK's democracy is held by norms, and not government structure. That doesn't make it OK. It just means that they're prone to fall like other post democratic nations.

If only Israel had a constitutional laws. In lack of the only democracy keeper is the supreme court

by cooloo 3y ago

If only Israel had a constitutional laws. In lack of the only democracy keeper is the supreme court

Israel has Basic Laws in lieu of Constitution, and Barak has declared the body of Basic Laws to be a Constitution. UK, notably, also has no constitution — it however wouldn't be reasonable to argue that "the only democracy keeper [in the UK] is the supreme court".

tivert 3y ago
> UK, notably, also has no constitution — it however wouldn't be reasonable to argue that "the only democracy keeper [in the UK] is the supreme court". Exactly. IIRC, the UK didn't have anything called a "Supreme Court" until very recently (its highest "court" used to be a committee in the upper house of parliament), and even then it's clearly subordination to Parliament: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Ki...: > The United Kingdom has a doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty,[6] so the Supreme Court is much more limited in its powers of judicial review than the constitutional or supreme courts of some other countries. It cannot overturn any primary legislation [Acts of Parliament] made by Parliament. However, as with any law court in the UK, it can overturn secondary legislation [an American translation may be executive orders and agency regulations] if, for an example, that legislation is found to be ultra vires to the powers in primary legislation allowing it to be made.
fortzi 3y ago
Basic Law in Israel is made in the same process as regular law, so it can't be relied upon for depending the public from the regime. The UK is a monarchy, so... In all seriousness, I don't know enough about UK law and government structure, but if I take what you said in face value, it may very well be that the UK's democracy is held by norms, and not government structure. That doesn't make it OK. It just means that they're prone to fall like other post democratic nations.