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I didn't substitute anything. The reality of the situation (which Harari forgets to mention anywhere) is that these things he is so scared of have ( or will hav

I didn't substitute anything. The reality of the situation (which Harari forgets to mention anywhere) is that these things he is so scared of have ( or will have ) majority or supermajority support in the near future. Talking about authoritarianism in Israel is useless as it suggests that there is something related to Russia or China or Cuba or Iran, but the reality is that the elections are pretty free, there is no rigging and it is simply people voting for programs they want. I am sympathetic to secular Israelis(they are the economically productive element of the country) but I don't like the insinuation that liberal democracy is the only form of democracy, especially since Israel doesn't have a written constitution.

brucethemoose2 3y ago
> reality is that the elections are pretty free > but I don't like the insinuation that liberal democracy is the only form of democracy, especially since Israel doesn't have a written constitution. I feel like these things go hand in hand. An enormous amount of historical precedent suggests concentration of power and illiberalness tends to erode election freedom, even when preceded by free elections.
thazework 3y ago
Illiberal democracy is a chimera. Hungary and Poland get to play make believe while safely ensconced in the European Union which they feign to detest. Elsewhere the equation is: no separation of powers = authoritarian regime of some kind // robust separation of powers = modern democracy. Even in ancient Athens there was gradual understanding that assembly decisions require constitutional review, hence the introduction of the γραφή παρανόμων
poisonarena 3y ago
I am a right wing secular israeli and the writing is on the wall. I was always with Bibi, but recently voted Lapid, I really don't know what to think or who to trust. Israel has changed so much in the last 20 years, whenever I go back all I can do is reminisce. I can't help but feeling that the Israel I loved is dying. It also feels like a big Americanization of the politics into two parties.

brucethemoose2 3y ago

> reality is that the elections are pretty free > but I don't like the insinuation that liberal democracy is the only form of democracy, especially since Israel doesn't have a written constitution. I feel like these things go hand in hand. An enormous amount of historical precedent suggests concentration of power and illiberalness tends to erode election freedom, even when preceded by free elections.

thazework 3y ago

Illiberal democracy is a chimera. Hungary and Poland get to play make believe while safely ensconced in the European Union which they feign to detest. Elsewhere the equation is: no separation of powers = authoritarian regime of some kind // robust separation of powers = modern democracy. Even in ancient Athens there was gradual understanding that assembly decisions require constitutional review, hence the introduction of the γραφή παρανόμων

poisonarena 3y ago

I am a right wing secular israeli and the writing is on the wall. I was always with Bibi, but recently voted Lapid, I really don't know what to think or who to trust. Israel has changed so much in the last 20 years, whenever I go back all I can do is reminisce. I can't help but feeling that the Israel I loved is dying. It also feels like a big Americanization of the politics into two parties.