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AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics Does this mean Ryzen CPUs without integrated graphics are fine?

• gruez 3y ago
  No, it's all Zen 2 CPUs, which include both desktop CPUs (with or without integrated graphics, laptop CPUs, and server CPUs. The reason why the product list is so confusing is that AMD reuses architectures across generations. You'd think that all ryzen 5000 series CPUs have the same microarchitecture, but they don't). It's much easier to consult this list instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_2#Products https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_2#Products
  • paulmd 3y ago
    FYI this list isn't exhaustive. And I went to recommend the wikichips link and it's not exhaustive either. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_2#All_Zen_2_Chips https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_2#Al... Both of them are missing the newer 7000-family products with Zen2 like 7520U etc. https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-7520u https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-7520u https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-7320u https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-7320u https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-athlon-gold-7220u https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-athlon-gold-7220u
    • neogodless 3y ago
      The 7520U and 7530U are listed on the linked Wikipedia page. Look under "Ultra-mobile APUs". The Athlon is missing, though.
    • tremon 3y ago
      products/apu/amd-athlon Wait... now there's also APU's under the AMD Athlon brand? I know that people are happy when AMD's product offerings are on-par or outperforming Intel, but they didn't have to outdo Intel in the consumer confusion arena as well.
      • paulmd 3y ago
        Has been for a while. https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/athlon-200ge.c2073 https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/athlon-200ge.c2073 Intel also used the Pentium branding for low-end processors (below i3 and in the Atom lineup), and followed it up with the rather perplexing move of using their company name as the sole branding for their worst products ("Intel Processor").
    • anticensor 3y ago
      Ryzen 7x2y are Zen 4 fused down to Zen 2, not originally taped out as Zen 2.
• formerly_proven 3y ago
  No this means AMD's numbering scheme is intentionally obtuse. This has nothing to do with graphics, but with the CPU core, Zen 2.
• lgl 3y ago
  The only series 5000 cpu's that are still using Zen2 architecture are apparently the 5300U, 5500U and 5700U, which all use socket FP6 (mobile/embedded). So I'm guessing it shouldn't affect any of the more recent and very popular Zen3 cpus like the 5600, 5700 etc. I personally own a 5600, which are a great bang for buck.
  • paulmd 3y ago
    Lucienne (5700U/5500U/5300U) are the only Zen2s in the 5000 series at present (afaik), but AMD continues to re-use the Zen2 architecture in the 7000 series (7520U, etc), as well as many semicustom products like Steam Deck. It's in rather a sweet-spot as far as performance-power-area, so this isn't entirely a bad thing. Zen3's main innovation was unifying the CCXs/caches, but if you only have a 4C, or you want to be able to power-gate a CCX (and its attendant IF links/caches) down entirely, Zen2 does that better, and it's slightly smaller. We'll be seeing Zen2 products for years to come, most likely.