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A rallying cry for them is: I vote right and keep getting left wing. They feel the claims against Netanyahu are all made up (similar to the Trump camp claims).

A rallying cry for them is: I vote right and keep getting left wing. They feel the claims against Netanyahu are all made up (similar to the Trump camp claims). There's also a dislike of liberal values and a lot of religion involved... The right has been in power almost continuously since 1977 (with a few short terms in between). Yet policies are far from what they promise. The right blames the liberals similarly to the "deep state" claims you see in the states. The judiciary is a major part of that. Ironically the judiciary today is very right wing and protects them from external criticisms.

brucethemoose2 3y ago
I thought a multiparty system would resist this kind of polarization... But the distrust I can understand. In the U.S. some legitimate systemic problems (especially in rural areas) and surpressed issues/controversies built up institutional skepticism among conservatives. Bad actors (on the extreme left and right) amplified it and turned it to obsession. The pressure was always there, ready to explode for years, but Trump just tapped it particularly well.
- invalidname 3y ago
  It's supposed to but blocks form naturally. Also Netanyahu is a VERY divisive figure that spews poison. He essentially poisoned the well of discourse and made it an "us vs. them" situation. He isn't 100% wrong. As a person who lives in Tel Aviv I'm a liberal and an atheist. I have almost nothing in common with a settler in the west bank. But there was a status quo and he smashed it with a jackhammer.
fortzi 3y ago
It's worth noting that many of what Likud voters today deem as "left wing" was actually done by the Likud in the past (like the human rights base law [1]). Essentially, when you actually gain power and have to take responsible action, you see that the right wing biblical fantasies can't end well for the county in reality. The problem today is that many of those right wingers who are also religious fundamentalists are now in power, and they care not about this world but about the next [2], so they're willing to make the sacrifice. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_L... [2] https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%96%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%92%D7%90%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%94 https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%96%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%9... (It's only in Hebrew, but Google Translate is your friend)
- invalidname 3y ago
  Exactly. Likud PMs gave territories and signed peace accords. When people complain that both parties are exactly alike I groan. That's "good government". People make reasonable decisions which are the same in almost all cases, just some nuanced differences but the general direction is based on consensus. What we have now isn't right wing. It's far right fascists and autocrats who are holding the Likud party like a puppeteer.

brucethemoose2 3y ago

I thought a multiparty system would resist this kind of polarization... But the distrust I can understand. In the U.S. some legitimate systemic problems (especially in rural areas) and surpressed issues/controversies built up institutional skepticism among conservatives. Bad actors (on the extreme left and right) amplified it and turned it to obsession. The pressure was always there, ready to explode for years, but Trump just tapped it particularly well.

invalidname 3y ago
It's supposed to but blocks form naturally. Also Netanyahu is a VERY divisive figure that spews poison. He essentially poisoned the well of discourse and made it an "us vs. them" situation. He isn't 100% wrong. As a person who lives in Tel Aviv I'm a liberal and an atheist. I have almost nothing in common with a settler in the west bank. But there was a status quo and he smashed it with a jackhammer.

fortzi 3y ago

It's worth noting that many of what Likud voters today deem as "left wing" was actually done by the Likud in the past (like the human rights base law [1]). Essentially, when you actually gain power and have to take responsible action, you see that the right wing biblical fantasies can't end well for the county in reality. The problem today is that many of those right wingers who are also religious fundamentalists are now in power, and they care not about this world but about the next [2], so they're willing to make the sacrifice. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_L... [2] https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%96%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%92%D7%90%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%94 https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%96%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%9... (It's only in Hebrew, but Google Translate is your friend)

invalidname 3y ago
Exactly. Likud PMs gave territories and signed peace accords. When people complain that both parties are exactly alike I groan. That's "good government". People make reasonable decisions which are the same in almost all cases, just some nuanced differences but the general direction is based on consensus. What we have now isn't right wing. It's far right fascists and autocrats who are holding the Likud party like a puppeteer.