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> He made electric cars sexy. They were decidedly unsexy before he bought Tesla. True that. > He gave us reusable rockets. Without that, the US would now be e

> He made electric cars sexy. They were decidedly unsexy before he bought Tesla. True that. > He gave us reusable rockets. Without that, the US would now be embarrassingly dependent on Russia's Soyuz. Well, NASA decided that building rockets isn't their core purpose anymore as rocket building isn't as scientific, experimental anymore and could be comodotized and financed private industry to take over. Musk was in thebright spot ant the right time, with enough capital and hype to take over the engineers and and funds and found the right executive team. These are achievements, but I he hadn't blue origin or somebody else would be in the spot.

EricE 3y ago
lol - SpaceX didn't surpass Blue Origin or NASAs contractors because of hype! How can people be this sincerely deluded?
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  The point is the market was positioned so that any participant would have benefited. Maybe Blue Origin or another company would have taken years longer to achieve what SpaceX did. Maybe more expensively, not as good, though one doubts hardly any less unreliably. But circumstances made it so that any player who tried could have gotten NASA the rockets more or less, if they tried, because the government was actively supporting private industry efforts to do so.
mcpackieh 3y ago
> IF he hadn't blue origin or somebody else would be in the spot. What is your basis for this belief? Blue Origin was founded two years before SpaceX, by a man who was far richer than Elon Musk, hired people connected and accomplished in the space industry and with that opportunity has accomplished far far less. They've never put anything into orbit, even as a test. SpaceX's success has not precluded Blue Origin's success. Blue Origin hasn't succeeded despite hiring many of the best people in the industry because they're unfocused and undriven. Blue Origin is poorly managed by Bezos, not hindered by SpaceX's success. Really, explain your reasoning for thinking otherwise. I would love to hear this.

EricE 3y ago

lol - SpaceX didn't surpass Blue Origin or NASAs contractors because of hype! How can people be this sincerely deluded?

Apocryphon 3y ago
The point is the market was positioned so that any participant would have benefited. Maybe Blue Origin or another company would have taken years longer to achieve what SpaceX did. Maybe more expensively, not as good, though one doubts hardly any less unreliably. But circumstances made it so that any player who tried could have gotten NASA the rockets more or less, if they tried, because the government was actively supporting private industry efforts to do so.

mcpackieh 3y ago

> IF he hadn't blue origin or somebody else would be in the spot. What is your basis for this belief? Blue Origin was founded two years before SpaceX, by a man who was far richer than Elon Musk, hired people connected and accomplished in the space industry and with that opportunity has accomplished far far less. They've never put anything into orbit, even as a test. SpaceX's success has not precluded Blue Origin's success. Blue Origin hasn't succeeded despite hiring many of the best people in the industry because they're unfocused and undriven. Blue Origin is poorly managed by Bezos, not hindered by SpaceX's success. Really, explain your reasoning for thinking otherwise. I would love to hear this.