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You are a body. Consciousness is your UI to the world that you generate and you use. Don't over-complicate this shit.

jstanley 3y ago
That's one viewpoint, but it's not "over-complicated" to consider others. You are a consciousness. Your body is your UI to the world.
- guerrilla 3y ago
  That reduces to solipsism or idealism, which have been explored extensively. Defenses of them are definitely over-complicated, which is why they aren't considered serious positions in philosophy anymore. Your questions are orthogonal to my answers.
  - antonvs 3y ago
    > they aren't considered serious positions in philosophy anymore. Statements like this say more about your biases than about anything happening in philosophy. As recently as 2019, Chalmers published "Idealism and the Mind-Body Problem" (https://philpapers.org/archive/CHAIAT-11.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/CHAIAT-11.pdf), a survey of some current positions in idealism.
antonvs 3y ago
Are computers conscious? If not, why not, and can they be programmed to be conscious? > Don't over-complicate this shit. One big issue that makes this difficult is that we have no understanding of how it's possible for physical matter to possess consciousness. Absolutely none, just lots of conjecture with no evidence or well-developed theory to support it. If you have a non-complicated answer to all this, you will be world-famous for solving the hard problem of consciousness (https://consc.net/papers/facing.html https://consc.net/papers/facing.html).
- guerrilla 3y ago
  I don't need to answer any of those questions to state what I did as facts. They aren't grounded in the same evidence.
  - antonvs 3y ago
    Ok, but in that case what you wrote has no relevance to the questions asked in the comment you responded to: "What is consciousness? ... Why do we feel that we exist? Who does the feeling part?" All you're talking about is its role, and making an unsupported assertion about it at that.

That's one viewpoint, but it's not "over-complicated" to consider others. You are a consciousness. Your body is your UI to the world.

guerrilla 3y ago
That reduces to solipsism or idealism, which have been explored extensively. Defenses of them are definitely over-complicated, which is why they aren't considered serious positions in philosophy anymore. Your questions are orthogonal to my answers.
- antonvs 3y ago
  > they aren't considered serious positions in philosophy anymore. Statements like this say more about your biases than about anything happening in philosophy. As recently as 2019, Chalmers published "Idealism and the Mind-Body Problem" (https://philpapers.org/archive/CHAIAT-11.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/CHAIAT-11.pdf), a survey of some current positions in idealism.

antonvs 3y ago

Are computers conscious? If not, why not, and can they be programmed to be conscious? > Don't over-complicate this shit. One big issue that makes this difficult is that we have no understanding of how it's possible for physical matter to possess consciousness. Absolutely none, just lots of conjecture with no evidence or well-developed theory to support it. If you have a non-complicated answer to all this, you will be world-famous for solving the hard problem of consciousness (https://consc.net/papers/facing.html https://consc.net/papers/facing.html).

guerrilla 3y ago
I don't need to answer any of those questions to state what I did as facts. They aren't grounded in the same evidence.
- antonvs 3y ago
  Ok, but in that case what you wrote has no relevance to the questions asked in the comment you responded to: "What is consciousness? ... Why do we feel that we exist? Who does the feeling part?" All you're talking about is its role, and making an unsupported assertion about it at that.