> Hiring them (especially a competent manager who will manage the operations) is just putting money on the table. I love to shit on Musk as much as anyone but

> Hiring them (especially a competent manager who will manage the operations) is just putting money on the table. I love to shit on Musk as much as anyone but I dunno about this lol. There's a lot of skill in hiring good technical people. IMO that "skill" basically just comes down to being a good technical person yourself so you can tell the difference. You can't hire an elite engineering team with hype, out of 100 applicants you'll get 2 good ones and 98 muppets that want to work at the trendy place and be seen to be doing so. I've worked for like 5+ companies that were doing fine before some dipshit head of engineering hired a bunch of other dipshits and they took over and turned it into a big dipshit orgy hellbent on driving a perfectly good company straight into an iceberg. The person doing the hiring has a shitton of influence in how a business goes unless your business model can live with enterprise-grade average and you can just hire everyone. I can't see that being the case at Tesla or SpaceX... I think Musk deserves some credit for Tesla and SpaceX. Doesn't stop him being a flog though.