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> Going to university should be viewed in the same light as a financial investment This is a good way to think about it in the USA, but IMO going to university

by ke88y 3y ago

> Going to university should be viewed in the same light as a financial investment This is a good way to think about it in the USA, but IMO going to university should be viewed in the same light as going to high school or trade school -- ie, a public good, available to all, and required of some subset of the population to ensure the continuing function of a modern society. Countries with this system seem to spend less and get better outcomes from their higher education systems.

darkclouds 3y ago
You fail to draw any attention of the recruiting practices of the security services. They haunt the corridors of learning with the complicit knowledge of the university staff, tapping the shoulders of new recruits. University's also work closely with the security services, professors are often used to manipulate and direct students into lines of research. So when viewing the damming reports on the police (and military) being institutionally racist, I would go even further to argue that not only are these institutions racist, the university staff appear to enable these criminal practices, fuelling prejudice, discrimination and anti-meritocratic ethos by allowing such relationships to exist. Thats the last thing I would want from a UK university, but the security services are hardly stealth or intelligent about their recruiting practices, perhaps demonstrating their hubris and pride before a fall. I could argue that the USA approach to only having loyalty to money, breaks down these criminal institutions that masquerade as the pillars of society that think of themselves beyond reproach, an idea that cant be killed, because if you only have loyalty to money, you hold neither prejudice, racist or discriminating views of someone so long as their money is good. So can you really sit there and argue the UK model is ethically better, unless of course your idea of a functioning society is one that secretly harbours racist, prejudicial, anti-meritocratic, royal right to rule characteristics?

by ke88y 3y ago

darkclouds 3y ago

You fail to draw any attention of the recruiting practices of the security services. They haunt the corridors of learning with the complicit knowledge of the university staff, tapping the shoulders of new recruits. University's also work closely with the security services, professors are often used to manipulate and direct students into lines of research. So when viewing the damming reports on the police (and military) being institutionally racist, I would go even further to argue that not only are these institutions racist, the university staff appear to enable these criminal practices, fuelling prejudice, discrimination and anti-meritocratic ethos by allowing such relationships to exist. Thats the last thing I would want from a UK university, but the security services are hardly stealth or intelligent about their recruiting practices, perhaps demonstrating their hubris and pride before a fall. I could argue that the USA approach to only having loyalty to money, breaks down these criminal institutions that masquerade as the pillars of society that think of themselves beyond reproach, an idea that cant be killed, because if you only have loyalty to money, you hold neither prejudice, racist or discriminating views of someone so long as their money is good. So can you really sit there and argue the UK model is ethically better, unless of course your idea of a functioning society is one that secretly harbours racist, prejudicial, anti-meritocratic, royal right to rule characteristics?