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It is even more wrong to conflate someone’s parents’ economic success with intelligence.

• parineum 3y ago
  Elon Musk is massively more successful than his parents.
  • ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    I think you missed the point of the post you're replying to: elmu's current wealth is owed in large part, perhaps the most, to wealth he received from his rich, apartheid African jewel mine owning parents: that is the money with which he was able to get the rest of the money
    • parineum 3y ago
      I understand that but and I think you missed the point of my post. If I had multiplied the advantage provided by my upbringing in the same way that Musk had, I'd be massively wealthy (but not nearly as wealthy). From a relative perspective, Musk is still a massive success. I haven't come close. I'm ahead in some ways and behind in others.
      • ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
        I think you're missing an even greater point: if someone (perhaps, self-admittedly, not you) had been gifted the wealth elmu was, they could have turned it into more wealth the way elmu has though, don't get down on yourself and where you started vs. where you are: the relationship obviously isn't linear: the richer you are, the easier it becomes to turn 1 dollar into 2 dollars, especially when your family is wealthy, too
        • parineum 3y ago
          > had been gifted the wealth elmu was, they could have turned it into more wealth the way elmu has I definitely would have not done that. I am not that ambitious and I guarantee I would have been happy to achieve practically nothing while enjoying the comforts of my upbringing.
          • ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
            > I definitely would have not done that I understand and acknowledge that, and tried to account for it in the full sentence, of which you only quoted half. The relevant portion is italicized below: > if someone (perhaps, self-admittedly, not you) had been gifted the wealth elmu was, they could have turned it into more wealth the way elmu has
            • parineum 3y ago
              Isn't that completely torpedoing your point though? Elon might have had a head start but he still lapped me 16 times on the way to where he is now. If everyone had the exact same head start he did (or didn't, it seems disputed), we all wouldn't have achieved what he has. Just because he had a head start that we would all have liked to have doesn't mean we all could have accomplished what he has. It'd be like dismissing an MLB pitcher throwing a perfect game because his parents could afford to send him to private coaches.
              • ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
                > Isn't that completely torpedoing your point though? why would it? You aren't everybody, or anybody else but you, so saying you wouldn't want to do it doesn't really have any affect on the point (especially since we're discussing ability, not ambition)
        • TigeriusKirk 3y ago
          >had been gifted the wealth elmu was How much wealth was he gifted with? Order of magnitude would be a sufficient response.
    • DoesntMatter22 3y ago
      Is there actual proof he inherited the money?
      • jasfi 3y ago
        He said that there's no proof the mine ever existed. He also said that his parents' wealth didn't help him that much. Which is why he also never bothered much about the mine. I'm going on memory here, from what I read/heard online. I think people just want to write him off, tbh.
        • ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
          given elmu's long, strong history of dishonest public statements, "he said" should be considered evidence that the opposite is true, if anything
          • DoesntMatter22 3y ago
            He seems to have been incredibly honest thus far including on his own failures.
      • marknutter 3y ago
        No, this is an unverified meme that refuses to die because "rich people bad".
      • ROTMetro 3y ago
        Nope. Just some guy who happens to be Elon's dad making these 'claims' but other than that single person's 'claims' nothing. /s