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You answered your own questions really with "Musk can seem to do no right atm" - for some of us, it's just incredibly funny to watch the hubris of a self-procla

You answered your own questions really with "Musk can seem to do no right atm" - for some of us, it's just incredibly funny to watch the hubris of a self-proclaimed genius cause them to fail so often in such a short space of time. A seemingly endless string of stupid decisions because he's surrounded by boot lickers and sycophants with not one of them willing to put their hand up and tell him he's not a genius.

wccrawford 3y ago
For me it's not funny so much as shocking, and sad. He had a hand, of some sort, in at least a few great things, and it's upsetting to watch it falling apart. I often think of the quote: "You either die a hero, or live to see yourself become a villain." Far too many icons outlive their hero phase, and it's kind of depressing. Edit: Or rather, the hero phase fails to live long enough to outlive the person.
- jeltz 3y ago
  The reality is that the hero likely never existed.
  - wccrawford 3y ago
    Reality of not, he was an inspiration to many adults and children for a while there, and it's sad to see that end.
- izzdrasil 3y ago
  He certainly had his wallet involved with some interesting things but I think it's a stretch to say he had any beneficial hands-on involvement.
  - lazide 3y ago
    He’s produced a lot of value for a lot of people over the years, and many things some of us see every day (like Teslas) are only the way they are/have been successful the way they are because of his influence. It’s always been more as a promoter and image seller, but he has also been willing to make big calls and take risks others won’t which has allowed them to grow. That is valuable. And he has been hands on in some areas sometimes in ways that have been instrumental in shaping things. For better or worse. He’s far from perfect. But no one is, and honesty is important. I suspect the big issue here is something typical of narcissists - he’s gotten older, and he can’t keep up his game convincingly enough anymore to fool a large enough percentage of the public, so he’s downward spiraling. And internally he can feel it, which makes it worse. It would explain a lot, especially the often bizarre and destructive attacks on anyone who says anything he doesn’t like. The over the top edgy/controversial behavior to get reactions, etc.
lazide 3y ago
Which is a natural state when the one in charge is insecure about their own actual weaknesses. They’ll attack anyone who tells them the actual truth, and end up surrounded by those who either can’t see the truth (due to incompetence or delusion), or are willing to actively lie about it (manipulators). By process of elimination, if not by active choice.
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wccrawford 3y ago

For me it's not funny so much as shocking, and sad. He had a hand, of some sort, in at least a few great things, and it's upsetting to watch it falling apart. I often think of the quote: "You either die a hero, or live to see yourself become a villain." Far too many icons outlive their hero phase, and it's kind of depressing. Edit: Or rather, the hero phase fails to live long enough to outlive the person.

jeltz 3y ago
The reality is that the hero likely never existed.
- wccrawford 3y ago
  Reality of not, he was an inspiration to many adults and children for a while there, and it's sad to see that end.
izzdrasil 3y ago
He certainly had his wallet involved with some interesting things but I think it's a stretch to say he had any beneficial hands-on involvement.
- lazide 3y ago
  He’s produced a lot of value for a lot of people over the years, and many things some of us see every day (like Teslas) are only the way they are/have been successful the way they are because of his influence. It’s always been more as a promoter and image seller, but he has also been willing to make big calls and take risks others won’t which has allowed them to grow. That is valuable. And he has been hands on in some areas sometimes in ways that have been instrumental in shaping things. For better or worse. He’s far from perfect. But no one is, and honesty is important. I suspect the big issue here is something typical of narcissists - he’s gotten older, and he can’t keep up his game convincingly enough anymore to fool a large enough percentage of the public, so he’s downward spiraling. And internally he can feel it, which makes it worse. It would explain a lot, especially the often bizarre and destructive attacks on anyone who says anything he doesn’t like. The over the top edgy/controversial behavior to get reactions, etc.

lazide 3y ago

Which is a natural state when the one in charge is insecure about their own actual weaknesses. They’ll attack anyone who tells them the actual truth, and end up surrounded by those who either can’t see the truth (due to incompetence or delusion), or are willing to actively lie about it (manipulators). By process of elimination, if not by active choice.

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