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Thank you for calling this out. It puts this into perspective, it is a long article with ton of video's, ton of quotes, which is a technique I've noticed with

Thank you for calling this out. It puts this into perspective, it is a long article with ton of video's, ton of quotes, which is a technique I've noticed with some religious organizations putting a spin on science. Take a lot of science citations and examples and simply spin them differently to fit your desire. Here, what he is going for is to add 'Agency' back in to us, because the entire Religious Framework of Sin falls apart in a mechanistic universe. They must put some kind of Agency back into humans so they can have 'free will', so humans can make 'choices', and thus be liable for their Sin. You can't have a judgmental God, if the humans he created can't make a choice. Or - More Sympathetic interpretation. Maybe this guy isn't pushing the Sin/Choice issue, and is trying to go back to the Schopenhauer "Will to Power" type interpretation. But if he is going for this, it would be nicer to call that out a little more clearly.

yamrzou 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive > Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be an informal fallacy. A common feature of appeals to motive is that only the possibility of a motive (however small) is shown, without showing the motive actually existed or, if the motive did exist, that the motive played a role in forming the argument and its conclusion. Indeed, it is often assumed that the mere possibility of motive is evidence enough.
- jungturk 3y ago
  That's because its inordinately expensive to prove that a motive contributed directly so we resort to heuristics. This asymmetry is well understood and exploited for disinformation purposes (though there's often some collateral damage inflicted on nuanced sources, as you mention).

yamrzou 3y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive > Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be an informal fallacy. A common feature of appeals to motive is that only the possibility of a motive (however small) is shown, without showing the motive actually existed or, if the motive did exist, that the motive played a role in forming the argument and its conclusion. Indeed, it is often assumed that the mere possibility of motive is evidence enough.

jungturk 3y ago
That's because its inordinately expensive to prove that a motive contributed directly so we resort to heuristics. This asymmetry is well understood and exploited for disinformation purposes (though there's often some collateral damage inflicted on nuanced sources, as you mention).