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IMHO defence against this is not using computers, personally. Worldcoin appears to be yet another attempt to solve an actual problem, an that is preventing sim

by mrtksn 3y ago

IMHO defence against this is not using computers, personally. Worldcoin appears to be yet another attempt to solve an actual problem, an that is preventing simulation of a biological being in a electronic network. Back in the day a password and a username was good enough to assume that a biological being is authenticated through a keyboard and taking actions in a system. As the automation become easier and ubiquitous we started using Captcha's, then we moved into fingerprinting and behaviour analysis however at the current stage we mostly lost. I have no idea if Worldcoin or anything similar will work or if they will attempt to create some kind of dystopia but the problem is fundamental one to using electronic interfaces. Maybe the solution for all this is going back to being human, and leave all the communications to the machines who would serve us. In other words' assume machine when in not in person. The end of symbiotic life with machines, going back to humans using tools.

hellojesus 3y ago
Folks can still use machines to communicate with others with relative confidence. You can exchange handles irl, use private public key pairs published on your personal site, etc. This runs the problem of invalidation if private keys are leaked, but you can always change it. Web if trust has existed for a long while. This only addresses chatter with unknown entities. Either you or I or both of us could be humans or machines. But does it matter?
- lxgr 3y ago
  > This only addresses chatter with unknown entities. Either you or I or both of us could be humans or machines. But does it matter? It matters quite a bit to people trying to sell (and people trying to buy) goods and services beyond the range in which they can physically attract new customers/discover new vendors.
lxgr 3y ago
> at the current stage we mostly lost. Maybe in parts of the world. That loss is definitely not evenly distributed – some countries/regions do have working digital signatures, e-government etc.

by mrtksn 3y ago

hellojesus 3y ago

Folks can still use machines to communicate with others with relative confidence. You can exchange handles irl, use private public key pairs published on your personal site, etc. This runs the problem of invalidation if private keys are leaked, but you can always change it. Web if trust has existed for a long while. This only addresses chatter with unknown entities. Either you or I or both of us could be humans or machines. But does it matter?

lxgr 3y ago
> This only addresses chatter with unknown entities. Either you or I or both of us could be humans or machines. But does it matter? It matters quite a bit to people trying to sell (and people trying to buy) goods and services beyond the range in which they can physically attract new customers/discover new vendors.

lxgr 3y ago

> at the current stage we mostly lost. Maybe in parts of the world. That loss is definitely not evenly distributed – some countries/regions do have working digital signatures, e-government etc.