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what is possible is not the same as what is regularly implemented. that same page suggests that !#$%&'*+-/=? should all be valid characters in an email are the

what is possible is not the same as what is regularly implemented. that same page suggests that !#$%&'*+-/=? should all be valid characters in an email are they in practice?

soulofmischief 3y ago
If Google/Yahoo/etc have first-class support for it, then yes, in practice, they are valid.
- permo-w 3y ago
  and do they?
  - soulofmischief 3y ago
    If you don't know the answer to this question, perhaps you are speaking on a subject you know little about and should refrain from stirring the pot until you understand a bit more. The information is out there, I'm not going to hold your hand through a cursory Google search.
    - permo-w 3y ago
      after a more than cursory google search, I can find no evidence that in gmail you can use any character beyond "+" and extra "."s. do you have a source to contradict this?
      - anonomousename 3y ago
        Out of curiosity, what did you search? Searching “gmail plus” gives plenty of results, some of which are from Google themselves. https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/9282734?hl=en#:~:text=Learn%20how-,create%20variations%20of%20your%20email%20address,-You%20can%20create https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/9282734?hl=en#:~:t... "Create variations of your email address"
        permo-w 3y ago
        I searched "slash in gmail address" "google mail extra characters usage" "ampersand in gmail" "implemented characters in gmail" and "slash in gmail address" not a single one provided any evidence of anything other than + and extra dots. parent commenter is talking out of his nether regions
        soulofmischief 3y ago
        I'm sorry, but when did I claim anything of the sort? This thread is about someone using a "+". This is the exact kind of goalpost-moving I expected of you. Just take your L and get off the internet for the day.
        permo-w 3y ago
        when? here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846441 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846441 >commenter points to wikipedia page showing that + is a generally accepted standard >I accept this but point to the page's other largely unimplemented characters, to show that email standards are not clearly defined, and it's not surprising there are services not implementing rarer characters like + >you accidentally imply that all the characters I list are implemented >you also claim this is a "well-established standard" - something easily disprovable - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 - so unsurprising you refuse to defend it essentially because my comment was getting downvoted and people were disagreeing with me, you felt comfortable 1) starting off rudely ("this is such an awful take"), 2) overreaching from the established facts, and 3) being childish and accusatory when questioned the way you act around people in positions of weakness is your real self
        soulofmischief 3y ago
        I will reply only one more time, because this is genuine flamebait. > essentially because my comment was getting downvoted and people were disagreeing with me, you felt comfortable 1) starting off rudely ("this is such an awful take"), 2) overreaching from the established facts, and 3) being childish and accusatory when questioned my criticism of your acting in bad faith has nothing to do with the fact that others did as well. Pointing that out was an attempt to allow you to understand that you may be incorrect. as for overreaching or "being childish", that's unsubstantiated and imagined. >you accidentally imply that all the characters I list are implemented friend, I never did this, you simply misunderstood. You seem to have a problem with blaming others for your own mistakes. >you also claim this is a "well-established standard" - something easily disprovable - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 - so unsurprising you refuse to defend it This is the definition of cherry-picking. The standard was established by several mail providers and is codified all over the web: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local-part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local-part If a naive developer doesn't adhere to this established standard, it doesn't suddenly make it not a standard; the developer is not following it. The standard is set by the mail providers. > the way you act around people in positions of weakness is your real self This is an absurd statement. If you are feeling persecuted in the comments section of a thread about email standards, you might need to unplug for a while. "people in positions of weakness" lol, this is Hacker News, no one cares about downvotes. Please just back off of this conversation, this isn't something you need to "win" or something. You're arguing in bad faith, plain and simple.
rpdillon 3y ago
Sure. + in particular is super common since 2008 when Google introduced it as a way to alias emails in Gmail. https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-mo...
- permo-w 3y ago
  super common as in a few technical people use it, and the rest besides . and _ are pretty much universally unimplemented
joeframbach 3y ago
Are you actually asking in good faith, or are you 10 years old, or are you just trolling?
- permo-w 3y ago
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what is possible is not the same as what is regularly implemented. that same page suggests that !#$%&'*+-/=? should all be valid characters in an email are they in practice?

soulofmischief 3y ago

If Google/Yahoo/etc have first-class support for it, then yes, in practice, they are valid.

permo-w 3y ago
and do they?
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  If you don't know the answer to this question, perhaps you are speaking on a subject you know little about and should refrain from stirring the pot until you understand a bit more. The information is out there, I'm not going to hold your hand through a cursory Google search.
  - permo-w 3y ago
    after a more than cursory google search, I can find no evidence that in gmail you can use any character beyond "+" and extra "."s. do you have a source to contradict this?
    - anonomousename 3y ago
      Out of curiosity, what did you search? Searching “gmail plus” gives plenty of results, some of which are from Google themselves. https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/9282734?hl=en#:~:text=Learn%20how-,create%20variations%20of%20your%20email%20address,-You%20can%20create https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/9282734?hl=en#:~:t... "Create variations of your email address"
      - permo-w 3y ago
        I searched "slash in gmail address" "google mail extra characters usage" "ampersand in gmail" "implemented characters in gmail" and "slash in gmail address" not a single one provided any evidence of anything other than + and extra dots. parent commenter is talking out of his nether regions
        soulofmischief 3y ago
        I'm sorry, but when did I claim anything of the sort? This thread is about someone using a "+". This is the exact kind of goalpost-moving I expected of you. Just take your L and get off the internet for the day.
        permo-w 3y ago
        when? here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846441 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36846441 >commenter points to wikipedia page showing that + is a generally accepted standard >I accept this but point to the page's other largely unimplemented characters, to show that email standards are not clearly defined, and it's not surprising there are services not implementing rarer characters like + >you accidentally imply that all the characters I list are implemented >you also claim this is a "well-established standard" - something easily disprovable - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 - so unsurprising you refuse to defend it essentially because my comment was getting downvoted and people were disagreeing with me, you felt comfortable 1) starting off rudely ("this is such an awful take"), 2) overreaching from the established facts, and 3) being childish and accusatory when questioned the way you act around people in positions of weakness is your real self
        soulofmischief 3y ago
        I will reply only one more time, because this is genuine flamebait. > essentially because my comment was getting downvoted and people were disagreeing with me, you felt comfortable 1) starting off rudely ("this is such an awful take"), 2) overreaching from the established facts, and 3) being childish and accusatory when questioned my criticism of your acting in bad faith has nothing to do with the fact that others did as well. Pointing that out was an attempt to allow you to understand that you may be incorrect. as for overreaching or "being childish", that's unsubstantiated and imagined. >you accidentally imply that all the characters I list are implemented friend, I never did this, you simply misunderstood. You seem to have a problem with blaming others for your own mistakes. >you also claim this is a "well-established standard" - something easily disprovable - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29319221 - so unsurprising you refuse to defend it This is the definition of cherry-picking. The standard was established by several mail providers and is codified all over the web: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local-part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local-part If a naive developer doesn't adhere to this established standard, it doesn't suddenly make it not a standard; the developer is not following it. The standard is set by the mail providers. > the way you act around people in positions of weakness is your real self This is an absurd statement. If you are feeling persecuted in the comments section of a thread about email standards, you might need to unplug for a while. "people in positions of weakness" lol, this is Hacker News, no one cares about downvotes. Please just back off of this conversation, this isn't something you need to "win" or something. You're arguing in bad faith, plain and simple.

rpdillon 3y ago

Sure. + in particular is super common since 2008 when Google introduced it as a way to alias emails in Gmail. https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-mo...

permo-w 3y ago
super common as in a few technical people use it, and the rest besides . and _ are pretty much universally unimplemented

joeframbach 3y ago

Are you actually asking in good faith, or are you 10 years old, or are you just trolling?

permo-w 3y ago
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