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Ubisoft: Ubidead Does that also include console copies I wonder? I have blacklisted EA/Origin and Konami already, now Ubisoft is entering the list. Do not sup

Ubisoft: Ubidead Does that also include console copies I wonder? I have blacklisted EA/Origin and Konami already, now Ubisoft is entering the list. Do not support money-milkers.

gambiting 3y ago
>>Does that also include console copies I wonder? Console copies don't rely on your Ubisoft account so no, it does not. You might lose progress in games where it's stored on Ubisoft servers though, like The Division.
- psychoslave 3y ago
  The only game I still play from time to time is Rock Smith 2014 on a X-box I bought specifically for that. I wouldn’t even care to connect to any account if this wasn’t required to access the store. There is two account required to access the whole game actually, one that is X-box/Microsoft account without with I guess the console is as useful as a brick, and one for Ubisoft which saves your progresses, give access to a few bonuses most notably the song Desolate Motion[1]. I don’t know where the record about acquired songs is supposed to be store, I would except it to be a Microsoft side handled stuff, but I remember that sometimes Ubisoft servers would be down and that would make bought tracks unavailable. I had a look at Rocksmith+ but was utterly disappointed with the monthly subscription fee model they went with. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZaAOaPaczU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZaAOaPaczU
  - Anthony-G 3y ago
    I started learning guitar during Covid and I purchased Rocksmith 2014 as a complement to Justin Sandercoe’s excellent series of courses. I’m curious about why you bought an X-box specifically for Rocksmith. Does it perform better with an X-box than a PC? I purchased the game from Steam and it runs fine – if a little hot – on a Windows 10 laptop. So far, the only problem I’ve had on the PC was note detection when playing open strings for the “String Skip Saloon” game.
    - psychoslave 3y ago
      >I’m curious about why you bought an X-box specifically for Rocksmith. Does it perform better with an X-box than a PC? I doubt it, but I already didn’t have any Windows box to run it at home, and wanted something as dummy as possible to only play the game with any other distraction around. Would they buy a dedicated device, I would buy that if it just run and let me play.
      - Anthony-G 3y ago
        Thanks for the response. My Linux laptop is about 15 years old but I was able to use the Dell XPS that I got when we had to work from home due to Covid.
isaacfung 3y ago
I understand game developers want to make money but what is the logic here? If we delete their accounts permanently, they are going to rebuy our games!!
- dschuetz 3y ago
  Publishers want to make money. Game developer studios under contract with publishers only get a share of the revenue. That's why big publishers found their own or buy game dev studios to... <drum roll> make more money for themselves, and outcompete independent developers.
  - gmerc 3y ago
    Ubi is mostly first party. The studios are the company.
- mikepavone 3y ago
  > I understand game developers want to make money but what is the logic here? I think the logic here is that they don't want to get a huge fine from CNIL (French data regulator) and possibly other GDPR countries that choose to interpret the requirements in a similar way. There's a reason so many different services are rolling out inactive account deletion policies now.
  - happymellon 3y ago
    The GDPR is all about personal information. What is personal about user `mikepavone22` owning FIFA 2019? Or is this because they demand personal information for your account, such as your date of birth? Because they shouldn't be able to restrict your access to a service based upon them gathering your personal details.
    - mordae 3y ago
      Once the data are tied to email, IP address, SSN, eID, ID card or even a name, they are personal data. Sure, "owns FIFA 2019" is not sensitive data like "suffers from depression" or "voted Green" would be, but it's still data about a person. Many people confuse identifiers with personal data. Next time, assume personal data means all columns of the "user" table and everything that can be sensibly joined to them. "Anonymized" means setting all non-synthetic identifiers to NULL. "Pseudonymized" means replacing all non-synthetic identifiers with generated ones. "Sufficiently" means you ask yourself: "Would I be plausibly able to identify rows related to this one person I personally know stuff about?" But obviously, keeping user accounts to be able to provide them with their games is a given. No data protection agency would be able to convince a court that you should have made the games inaccessible without explicit instruction from the user. It's a textbook example of legitimate interest.
craftkiller 3y ago
Might want to add Blizzard to that list. I used to own a copy of Warcraft 3, but Blizzard revoked all existing copies when they re-released WC3 as "Warcraft III: Reforged". I would have to purchase the game a second time to play it again.

Ubisoft: Ubidead Does that also include console copies I wonder? I have blacklisted EA/Origin and Konami already, now Ubisoft is entering the list. Do not support money-milkers.

gambiting 3y ago

>>Does that also include console copies I wonder? Console copies don't rely on your Ubisoft account so no, it does not. You might lose progress in games where it's stored on Ubisoft servers though, like The Division.

psychoslave 3y ago
The only game I still play from time to time is Rock Smith 2014 on a X-box I bought specifically for that. I wouldn’t even care to connect to any account if this wasn’t required to access the store. There is two account required to access the whole game actually, one that is X-box/Microsoft account without with I guess the console is as useful as a brick, and one for Ubisoft which saves your progresses, give access to a few bonuses most notably the song Desolate Motion[1]. I don’t know where the record about acquired songs is supposed to be store, I would except it to be a Microsoft side handled stuff, but I remember that sometimes Ubisoft servers would be down and that would make bought tracks unavailable. I had a look at Rocksmith+ but was utterly disappointed with the monthly subscription fee model they went with. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZaAOaPaczU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZaAOaPaczU
- Anthony-G 3y ago
  I started learning guitar during Covid and I purchased Rocksmith 2014 as a complement to Justin Sandercoe’s excellent series of courses. I’m curious about why you bought an X-box specifically for Rocksmith. Does it perform better with an X-box than a PC? I purchased the game from Steam and it runs fine – if a little hot – on a Windows 10 laptop. So far, the only problem I’ve had on the PC was note detection when playing open strings for the “String Skip Saloon” game.
  - psychoslave 3y ago
    >I’m curious about why you bought an X-box specifically for Rocksmith. Does it perform better with an X-box than a PC? I doubt it, but I already didn’t have any Windows box to run it at home, and wanted something as dummy as possible to only play the game with any other distraction around. Would they buy a dedicated device, I would buy that if it just run and let me play.
    - Anthony-G 3y ago
      Thanks for the response. My Linux laptop is about 15 years old but I was able to use the Dell XPS that I got when we had to work from home due to Covid.

isaacfung 3y ago

I understand game developers want to make money but what is the logic here? If we delete their accounts permanently, they are going to rebuy our games!!

dschuetz 3y ago
Publishers want to make money. Game developer studios under contract with publishers only get a share of the revenue. That's why big publishers found their own or buy game dev studios to... <drum roll> make more money for themselves, and outcompete independent developers.
- gmerc 3y ago
  Ubi is mostly first party. The studios are the company.
mikepavone 3y ago
> I understand game developers want to make money but what is the logic here? I think the logic here is that they don't want to get a huge fine from CNIL (French data regulator) and possibly other GDPR countries that choose to interpret the requirements in a similar way. There's a reason so many different services are rolling out inactive account deletion policies now.
- happymellon 3y ago
  The GDPR is all about personal information. What is personal about user `mikepavone22` owning FIFA 2019? Or is this because they demand personal information for your account, such as your date of birth? Because they shouldn't be able to restrict your access to a service based upon them gathering your personal details.
  - mordae 3y ago
    Once the data are tied to email, IP address, SSN, eID, ID card or even a name, they are personal data. Sure, "owns FIFA 2019" is not sensitive data like "suffers from depression" or "voted Green" would be, but it's still data about a person. Many people confuse identifiers with personal data. Next time, assume personal data means all columns of the "user" table and everything that can be sensibly joined to them. "Anonymized" means setting all non-synthetic identifiers to NULL. "Pseudonymized" means replacing all non-synthetic identifiers with generated ones. "Sufficiently" means you ask yourself: "Would I be plausibly able to identify rows related to this one person I personally know stuff about?" But obviously, keeping user accounts to be able to provide them with their games is a given. No data protection agency would be able to convince a court that you should have made the games inaccessible without explicit instruction from the user. It's a textbook example of legitimate interest.

craftkiller 3y ago

Might want to add Blizzard to that list. I used to own a copy of Warcraft 3, but Blizzard revoked all existing copies when they re-released WC3 as "Warcraft III: Reforged". I would have to purchase the game a second time to play it again.