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Tangential: I was going to suggest "protocoli(s|z)ed" instead of protocollar, but I Googled "protocollar statements" just to check and found 2 things. First, th

Tangential: I was going to suggest "protocoli(s|z)ed" instead of protocollar, but I Googled "protocollar statements" just to check and found 2 things. First, this page was the top result! Second, "protocolar" (one ell) and "protocolary" are apparently real words. New to me, thanks.

mdp2021 3y ago
You had me check a few sources for found expressions in use for the concept: you can find simply "protocols" (intending that), "protocol statements", the "protocol-sentence debate", "protocollar propositions"... Edit: oh, by the way, in case of interest: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/vienna-circle/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/vienna-circle/
- cubefox 3y ago
  In German they were called "Protokollsätze", which translates to "protocol sentences".
mdp2021 3y ago
(By the way: > "protocoli(s|z)ed" the use of '-ize' is (a graecism) indicated by the OED as International English, as opposed to British, American etc. In fact, some call International English "British spelling with -ize" - it is not exactly that but close. One exception is 'analyse', but that is because linguists compromised on the "difficult" original 'analysize'.)
- stavros 3y ago
  What's "analysize"? That's not a Greek word.
  - mdp2021 3y ago
    It's so determined by Fowler; pls. check this: https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=analyse https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=analyse
    - stavros 3y ago
      Ah, it would have been the correct way to transfer it to English, it says, not that it's in any way original.
      - mdp2021 3y ago
        Sorry, my imprecision. You spend ages trying to find proper expression, and yet... Well, this proves the importance of the effort.
        stavros 3y ago
        Haha, that, it does.
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
I think protocollar is in this context a misspelling of protocolar - hence its high placement for protocollar statements, if I google protocolar statements this is the highest result (for me) https://www.britannica.com/topic/protocol-sentence https://www.britannica.com/topic/protocol-sentence
- mdp2021 3y ago
  > a misspelling of protocolar It could be. I cannot bring to mind the rules for doubling right now. They both occur, 'protocolar' much more often. I will correct my original post.

mdp2021 3y ago

You had me check a few sources for found expressions in use for the concept: you can find simply "protocols" (intending that), "protocol statements", the "protocol-sentence debate", "protocollar propositions"... Edit: oh, by the way, in case of interest: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/vienna-circle/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/vienna-circle/

cubefox 3y ago
In German they were called "Protokollsätze", which translates to "protocol sentences".

mdp2021 3y ago

(By the way: > "protocoli(s|z)ed" the use of '-ize' is (a graecism) indicated by the OED as International English, as opposed to British, American etc. In fact, some call International English "British spelling with -ize" - it is not exactly that but close. One exception is 'analyse', but that is because linguists compromised on the "difficult" original 'analysize'.)

stavros 3y ago
What's "analysize"? That's not a Greek word.
- mdp2021 3y ago
  It's so determined by Fowler; pls. check this: https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=analyse https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=analyse
  - stavros 3y ago
    Ah, it would have been the correct way to transfer it to English, it says, not that it's in any way original.
    - mdp2021 3y ago
      Sorry, my imprecision. You spend ages trying to find proper expression, and yet... Well, this proves the importance of the effort.
      - stavros 3y ago
        Haha, that, it does.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

I think protocollar is in this context a misspelling of protocolar - hence its high placement for protocollar statements, if I google protocolar statements this is the highest result (for me) https://www.britannica.com/topic/protocol-sentence https://www.britannica.com/topic/protocol-sentence

mdp2021 3y ago
> a misspelling of protocolar It could be. I cannot bring to mind the rules for doubling right now. They both occur, 'protocolar' much more often. I will correct my original post.