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> The userbase that plays these games do not care. They are a sustained revenue source. A majority of them do not overlap with gaming and tech communities onlin

> The userbase that plays these games do not care. They are a sustained revenue source. A majority of them do not overlap with gaming and tech communities online. They simply play the games and move on. It's a large silent community that we don't often interact with. What's with the need to use such an insulting tone, simply because you don't like a certain type of games? I buy F1 every single year, and I'm an avid gamer and part of the tech community. The game doesn't require massive changes every year, there's simply no need for it. Improved graphics, and an up to date grid, cars, circuits and regulations is what I want from such a game.

ajmurmann 3y ago
As a fellow F1 player, I do feel less comfortable buying these games at full price and that's why I don't buy them every year, even though of like the updated grid and tracks. I wish there was a cheaper upgrade option, since I'm clearly not buying a full game. Your point that it doesn't need a full overhaul is completely correct, but we are still paying full price.
- woutr_be 3y ago
  I do agree with you on the price point. And sometimes I do feel like I'm overpaying just to have the game up to date. Obviously I don't know any of the financials behind making such a game, but I would imagine that licensing makes up a fairly large chunk of the price.
  - cornel_io 3y ago
    I know nothing about this one in particular but typical game license deals are something like 25% of revenue to the IP holder. A strong dev like EA may bump that down a little bit and a mega IP (Harry Potter, Marvel, etc) might bump it up, but it's not going to be super far off.
BlargMcLarg 3y ago
It's not an insult to point out the obvious 'ignorance is bliss'. You can still like bargain bin fast food while admitting such food is garbage. That's the thing happening with these companies, changing things to be more consumer-unfriendly while riding on nostalgia or branding. Pointing it out doesn't make it an insult to those still enjoying the game.
- woutr_be 3y ago
  > It's not an insult to point out the obvious 'ignorance is bliss'. You can still like bargain bin fast food while admitting such food is garbage. It does feel like an insult. And it also feels like an insult to say those players are ignorant. I'm fully aware of what I'm buying every year, but it meets my expectations of such game.
  - hypertele-Xii 3y ago
    politelemon said: > A majority of them do not overlap with gaming and tech communities online. [...] It's a large silent community that we don't often interact with. Considering you, woutr_be, are indeed overlapping with this online tech community, aren't silent at all, and we're interacting with you right now, why are you taking offense with a category of people you aren't part of?

ajmurmann 3y ago

As a fellow F1 player, I do feel less comfortable buying these games at full price and that's why I don't buy them every year, even though of like the updated grid and tracks. I wish there was a cheaper upgrade option, since I'm clearly not buying a full game. Your point that it doesn't need a full overhaul is completely correct, but we are still paying full price.

woutr_be 3y ago
I do agree with you on the price point. And sometimes I do feel like I'm overpaying just to have the game up to date. Obviously I don't know any of the financials behind making such a game, but I would imagine that licensing makes up a fairly large chunk of the price.
- cornel_io 3y ago
  I know nothing about this one in particular but typical game license deals are something like 25% of revenue to the IP holder. A strong dev like EA may bump that down a little bit and a mega IP (Harry Potter, Marvel, etc) might bump it up, but it's not going to be super far off.

BlargMcLarg 3y ago

It's not an insult to point out the obvious 'ignorance is bliss'. You can still like bargain bin fast food while admitting such food is garbage. That's the thing happening with these companies, changing things to be more consumer-unfriendly while riding on nostalgia or branding. Pointing it out doesn't make it an insult to those still enjoying the game.

woutr_be 3y ago
> It's not an insult to point out the obvious 'ignorance is bliss'. You can still like bargain bin fast food while admitting such food is garbage. It does feel like an insult. And it also feels like an insult to say those players are ignorant. I'm fully aware of what I'm buying every year, but it meets my expectations of such game.
- hypertele-Xii 3y ago
  politelemon said: > A majority of them do not overlap with gaming and tech communities online. [...] It's a large silent community that we don't often interact with. Considering you, woutr_be, are indeed overlapping with this online tech community, aren't silent at all, and we're interacting with you right now, why are you taking offense with a category of people you aren't part of?