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Enter the Dragon was playing a theater near me recently, and for some reason never having seen a single Bruce Lee film, I figured I'd check it out. It was aweso

Enter the Dragon was playing a theater near me recently, and for some reason never having seen a single Bruce Lee film, I figured I'd check it out. It was awesome and I ended up down a rabbit hole of reading about Bruce's life and accomplishments. There are some really great interviews with him on YouTube too. It's really irritating that the first thing many younger people will think about Bruce Lee is the near-libelous portrayal of him in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

silisili 3y ago
Interesting. I never made that connection. I'm not a younger person, but never had any interest in Bruce Lee movies. I've seen a few, it's just not my cup of tea. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a real stinker of a film, IMO. I'd be highly surprised if young people used it as a benchmark of much. I didn't even remember "he" was in it until this comment.
- keiferski 3y ago
  Yeah I’m not a fan of Tarantino. My worry is that the most recent cultural work featuring Lee is Hollywood and that’s what younger people will associate him with. We could really use a new biopic or something that involves his ideas.
  - selcuka 3y ago
    I don't think people will associate the depiction of a someone in that movie to any actual people, given that the movie is a completely fictitious rewrite of a real event (i.e. Tate murders).
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- voidfunc 3y ago
  Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a stinker... that's a take. Movie wad fantastic. The Bruce Lee scene is fucking hilarious also.
  - devoutsalsa 3y ago
    Meh. I got bored and walked out to be honest. We all have our own tastes.
    - vasco 3y ago
      The phenomenon of walking out of a show I paid to watch, even if I'm not enjoying that much is so alien to me. The first thought I might have is "what am I missing", and throughout I'll be trying to either find something good in it or start joking about it in my head. Maybe it'll turn good, maybe it'll be so bad it's good. Maybe the way they tell the story is bad but I still want to know how the story ends. I feel like I have so many reasons to stay there that it hasn't ever ocurred to walk out. Do you walk out of stuff often?
      - wheels 3y ago
        I don't watch enough movies in a theater to measure walk outs there (though I would have walked out of the latest Avatar had I not been there with my son; so boring and long...), but I do stop maybe 1/5 novels without finishing and maybe 1/20 movies without finishing them. There's more interesting stuff I could be doing with my time, and if they are completely not my taste, I'd rather be ding those things.
      - worrycue 3y ago
        Not him but I have video games I didn't complete and books I stop reading midway. You already wasted your money, why compound the loss further by wasting your time on things you don’t care for.
      - throw_pm23 3y ago
        Walked out once of a movie people convinced me to go to. I found it childish and boring, kept thinking it is a nice sunny weather outside, what am I doing wasting my life in this darkness watching this commercial crap. It felt great being outside. I wish I had used my time similarly wisely in the years that followed :)
- mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
  Its art, to each their own. Its also a Tarantino film so its entirely his interpretation and lens of film into what he wanted to produce. I've watched a few interviews with him about that film and others and he is very meticulous about the content down to certain words in lines, no ad-libbing type of meticulous. I like some of his work and some of it I don't. I certainly hope young people understand not to think of portrayals of real people in works of art+semi-fiction aren't a good representation to bench anything on.
  - JeremyNT 3y ago
    > I certainly hope young people understand not to think of portrayals of real people in works of art+semi-fiction aren't a good representation to bench anything on. Tarantino's style is so distinctive, and basically never grounded in reality. Regardless of whether the film is to one's tastes or not, it would be a pretty grave error to encounter a character in a Tarantino film and mistake the performance as an accurate representation of any real world person.
costanzaDynasty 3y ago
Bruce Lee has been worshipped non stop for 50 years. His legacy can take one dream sequence.
foobarbaz33 3y ago
> ...near-libelous portrayal of him Is it libelous or true? Are you assuming? You have to realize this is a person who was mythologized. A person who millions believe is the best fighter ever despite never having been put to the test. A great person who accomplished a lot, but reality never quite matches up with perception of the masses.
- keiferski 3y ago
  From what I’ve read online, Lee never claimed he could beat Muhammad Ali, as he does in the film. In fact he said the opposite. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bruce-lee-thought-muhammad-ali-would-kill-him-in-fight/ https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bruce-lee-thought-muhammad-ali-... That seems pretty misleading to me.
- johnla 3y ago
  Near-libelous is fitting. I'm a Bruce fanatic since childhood and there are a lot of personal accounts of Bruce and they never painted him as the guy in Tarantino's movie. I love Tarantino but that was bad. Tarantino likes to play with his characters but in this case Bruce was a real person and a hero to a generation(s). That was unfair to do that to a real person for some comedy.
  - foobarbaz33 3y ago
    > Bruce fanatic since childhood You've been fed a steady diet of martyr god.
fuzztester 3y ago
>There are some really great interviews with him on YouTube too. I can search, but can you recommend any?
- keiferski 3y ago
  I enjoyed this one: https://youtu.be/uk1lzkH-e4U https://youtu.be/uk1lzkH-e4U
  - fuzztester 3y ago
    Thanks
beezlewax 3y ago
Don't think you can libel the dead.
inconceivable 3y ago
tarantino hates asian men and has an asian female fetish. look through the history of his movies. he's the typical 80s/90s hollywood producer type that relentlessly trashed on asians in every fucking way/every chance possible.

silisili 3y ago

Interesting. I never made that connection. I'm not a younger person, but never had any interest in Bruce Lee movies. I've seen a few, it's just not my cup of tea. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a real stinker of a film, IMO. I'd be highly surprised if young people used it as a benchmark of much. I didn't even remember "he" was in it until this comment.

keiferski 3y ago
Yeah I’m not a fan of Tarantino. My worry is that the most recent cultural work featuring Lee is Hollywood and that’s what younger people will associate him with. We could really use a new biopic or something that involves his ideas.
- selcuka 3y ago
  I don't think people will associate the depiction of a someone in that movie to any actual people, given that the movie is a completely fictitious rewrite of a real event (i.e. Tate murders).
  - deleted 3y ago
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voidfunc 3y ago
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a stinker... that's a take. Movie wad fantastic. The Bruce Lee scene is fucking hilarious also.
- devoutsalsa 3y ago
  Meh. I got bored and walked out to be honest. We all have our own tastes.
  - vasco 3y ago
    The phenomenon of walking out of a show I paid to watch, even if I'm not enjoying that much is so alien to me. The first thought I might have is "what am I missing", and throughout I'll be trying to either find something good in it or start joking about it in my head. Maybe it'll turn good, maybe it'll be so bad it's good. Maybe the way they tell the story is bad but I still want to know how the story ends. I feel like I have so many reasons to stay there that it hasn't ever ocurred to walk out. Do you walk out of stuff often?
    - wheels 3y ago
      I don't watch enough movies in a theater to measure walk outs there (though I would have walked out of the latest Avatar had I not been there with my son; so boring and long...), but I do stop maybe 1/5 novels without finishing and maybe 1/20 movies without finishing them. There's more interesting stuff I could be doing with my time, and if they are completely not my taste, I'd rather be ding those things.
    - worrycue 3y ago
      Not him but I have video games I didn't complete and books I stop reading midway. You already wasted your money, why compound the loss further by wasting your time on things you don’t care for.
    - throw_pm23 3y ago
      Walked out once of a movie people convinced me to go to. I found it childish and boring, kept thinking it is a nice sunny weather outside, what am I doing wasting my life in this darkness watching this commercial crap. It felt great being outside. I wish I had used my time similarly wisely in the years that followed :)
mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
Its art, to each their own. Its also a Tarantino film so its entirely his interpretation and lens of film into what he wanted to produce. I've watched a few interviews with him about that film and others and he is very meticulous about the content down to certain words in lines, no ad-libbing type of meticulous. I like some of his work and some of it I don't. I certainly hope young people understand not to think of portrayals of real people in works of art+semi-fiction aren't a good representation to bench anything on.
- JeremyNT 3y ago
  > I certainly hope young people understand not to think of portrayals of real people in works of art+semi-fiction aren't a good representation to bench anything on. Tarantino's style is so distinctive, and basically never grounded in reality. Regardless of whether the film is to one's tastes or not, it would be a pretty grave error to encounter a character in a Tarantino film and mistake the performance as an accurate representation of any real world person.

costanzaDynasty 3y ago

Bruce Lee has been worshipped non stop for 50 years. His legacy can take one dream sequence.

foobarbaz33 3y ago

> ...near-libelous portrayal of him Is it libelous or true? Are you assuming? You have to realize this is a person who was mythologized. A person who millions believe is the best fighter ever despite never having been put to the test. A great person who accomplished a lot, but reality never quite matches up with perception of the masses.

keiferski 3y ago
From what I’ve read online, Lee never claimed he could beat Muhammad Ali, as he does in the film. In fact he said the opposite. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bruce-lee-thought-muhammad-ali-would-kill-him-in-fight/ https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bruce-lee-thought-muhammad-ali-... That seems pretty misleading to me.
johnla 3y ago
Near-libelous is fitting. I'm a Bruce fanatic since childhood and there are a lot of personal accounts of Bruce and they never painted him as the guy in Tarantino's movie. I love Tarantino but that was bad. Tarantino likes to play with his characters but in this case Bruce was a real person and a hero to a generation(s). That was unfair to do that to a real person for some comedy.
- foobarbaz33 3y ago
  > Bruce fanatic since childhood You've been fed a steady diet of martyr god.

fuzztester 3y ago

>There are some really great interviews with him on YouTube too. I can search, but can you recommend any?

keiferski 3y ago
I enjoyed this one: https://youtu.be/uk1lzkH-e4U https://youtu.be/uk1lzkH-e4U
- fuzztester 3y ago
  Thanks

beezlewax 3y ago

Don't think you can libel the dead.

inconceivable 3y ago

tarantino hates asian men and has an asian female fetish. look through the history of his movies. he's the typical 80s/90s hollywood producer type that relentlessly trashed on asians in every fucking way/every chance possible.