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I dislike Facebook and the New Republic for the same reasons: they're both run by apparent sociopaths and each claims a mantle of semi-divinity. I know that Hug

by zotz 15y ago

I dislike Facebook and the New Republic for the same reasons: they're both run by apparent sociopaths and each claims a mantle of semi-divinity. I know that Hughes isn't involved in the day to day at FB, but he influenced it into being the swamp that it is now. If he had a sense of decency, he'd at least get rid of Peretz.

colinplamondon 15y ago
Do you really think your first paragraph adds to the conversation?
- zotz 15y ago
  Yes. It adds a different perspective from the usual.
rokhayakebe 15y ago
Can you please explain what makes the people running FB, and TNR, sociopaths, and how they claim mantle of semi-divinity (I am not sure what this means)?
gyardley 15y ago
Peretz seems to be gradually removing himself as he winds down his career, but this is a strange statement to make - I suspect it was only his leadership that made the magazine's editorial slant distinctive from other publications and therefore worth paying attention to. Without him, you might as well roll TNR into Mother Jones or The Nation and call it a day.
- zotz 15y ago
  I have to question the judgement of anyone that would give credence to a man that said: "But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse."
  - gyardley 15y ago
    I have to question the judgement of anyone that thinks you can pick some random quote from somewhere and then use it to discount an individual's entire body of work spanning decades. Peretz is a secular Zionist and passionate advocate for Israel's right to defend itself who at the same time strongly opposes Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria. This combination of views is increasingly rare and that's a real shame, because without prominent people advocating them, defending Israel and defending the settlers are going to reflexively come together as a package.
    - zotz 15y ago
      It's not "some random quote". It's part of a larger pattern of extreme racism that Peretz has exhibited over the years. One can defend Israel without resorting to barbarism. Peretz appears to have a difficult time doing so. My overall point is if Mr. Hughes wants to engender good vibes about his new purchase, perhaps he should get rid of its biggest bad vibe generator.
      - gyardley 15y ago
        You might be right - perhaps I've just missed this. I won't claim to have read every single thing Peretz has written. But are you sure the 'bad vibes' around Peretz are due solely to his racism? I figured he'd run TNR into the ground, and I knew he was disliked, but I figured it was solely because the audience for left-wing domestic policy + right-wing foreign policy has been steadily evaporating. I suspected most of his audience had picked a 'side' and jumped for The Nation or something like Commentary, depending on their preferences. In any case, I have to admit I don't see TNR's reason for being post-Peretz. It'll be interesting to see what Hughes does with it.
        zotz 15y ago
        > But are you sure the 'bad vibes' around Peretz are due solely to his racism? I'm unsure. But it certainly can't help. Peretz was condemned by Harvard's undergrads back in 2010.
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by zotz 15y ago

colinplamondon 15y ago

Do you really think your first paragraph adds to the conversation?

zotz 15y ago
Yes. It adds a different perspective from the usual.

rokhayakebe 15y ago

Can you please explain what makes the people running FB, and TNR, sociopaths, and how they claim mantle of semi-divinity (I am not sure what this means)?

gyardley 15y ago

Peretz seems to be gradually removing himself as he winds down his career, but this is a strange statement to make - I suspect it was only his leadership that made the magazine's editorial slant distinctive from other publications and therefore worth paying attention to. Without him, you might as well roll TNR into Mother Jones or The Nation and call it a day.

zotz 15y ago
I have to question the judgement of anyone that would give credence to a man that said: "But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse."
- gyardley 15y ago
  I have to question the judgement of anyone that thinks you can pick some random quote from somewhere and then use it to discount an individual's entire body of work spanning decades. Peretz is a secular Zionist and passionate advocate for Israel's right to defend itself who at the same time strongly opposes Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria. This combination of views is increasingly rare and that's a real shame, because without prominent people advocating them, defending Israel and defending the settlers are going to reflexively come together as a package.
  - zotz 15y ago
    It's not "some random quote". It's part of a larger pattern of extreme racism that Peretz has exhibited over the years. One can defend Israel without resorting to barbarism. Peretz appears to have a difficult time doing so. My overall point is if Mr. Hughes wants to engender good vibes about his new purchase, perhaps he should get rid of its biggest bad vibe generator.
    - gyardley 15y ago
      You might be right - perhaps I've just missed this. I won't claim to have read every single thing Peretz has written. But are you sure the 'bad vibes' around Peretz are due solely to his racism? I figured he'd run TNR into the ground, and I knew he was disliked, but I figured it was solely because the audience for left-wing domestic policy + right-wing foreign policy has been steadily evaporating. I suspected most of his audience had picked a 'side' and jumped for The Nation or something like Commentary, depending on their preferences. In any case, I have to admit I don't see TNR's reason for being post-Peretz. It'll be interesting to see what Hughes does with it.
      - zotz 15y ago
        > But are you sure the 'bad vibes' around Peretz are due solely to his racism? I'm unsure. But it certainly can't help. Peretz was condemned by Harvard's undergrads back in 2010.
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