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Still odd to me that the party that supports "freedom" - specifically, 2A rights, which I also support - has this cop fetish. Law enforcement is a crucial regul

Still odd to me that the party that supports "freedom" - specifically, 2A rights, which I also support - has this cop fetish. Law enforcement is a crucial regulator against anarchy and crime, so that society can function more smoothly. But it should never, ever be allowed to have its own agenda or lobby for restrictions on free citizens' rights. The fact that the pro-2A PARTY in this country doesn't see that, and instead prefers to drop to their knees for cops, is deeply disturbing and disappointing. They just worship the uniform. That's kinda the difference between a conservative and a fascist (or a liberal and a communist). Fuck authority that we appointed giving themselves extra self-appointed permissions. I think I can say this, whether I'm right wing or left wing, and intelligent people will agree.

zapataband1 3y ago
Cops in Chicago are currently investigating themselves for rape of immigrant minors housed in their facilities. Absolutely disgusting that people continue to cheer our broken police force, especially after Ulvalde.
function_seven 3y ago
I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen both the Gadsden flag and the thin blue line flag flying on the same house/truck/boat/whatever. Um, pick one, yeah?
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  What you read into The Thin Blue Line flag depends heavily on where you land on the political Spectrum. Gadsden was a general in the Continental Army, so it's not like they were a complete anarchist. Unless someone's a complete anarchist, they understand that you need the rule of law and order to protect the civil liberties they hold dear. The type of person that has a thin blue line sticker probably does not view the police as the primary threat to their civil liberties
- noduerme 3y ago
  I'm not sure what your point is. I consider them both anti-American. Although my level of disgust is inherently higher with anything resembling and corrupting the American flag. I'm not a fan of flags anyway and I look down on people who care about them. If you think they sum up a political viewpoint, you're wrong, and it's still a sad commentary on the superficial nature of the debate we've been reduced to. [edit] it took me three reads of your comment to realize you were basically backing what I was saying. I'm an idiot, and I'm drunk at the moment. But yeah.
  - function_seven 3y ago
    Yes to your edit. And also very much agreed on how the “alt” flags just defile the one that we’re supposed to be united under.
    - noduerme 3y ago
      yeah. I'm in a weird spot in SE Portland where it's practically considered racist, fascist and pro-war to display an American flag... while 20 miles outside the City at my gfs house there's unlimited blue line flags, MAGA hats, etc which I consider deeply unAmerican and fascist. Literally can't fly an American flag anywhere in my state without triggering a bad reaction somehow. My family are all immigrants and extremely proud of our country and thankful for what America provided for us. Also very liberal. It's difficult to explain this to anyone who loves or hates America who isn't from an immigrant background.
SantalBlush 3y ago
They're so afraid of crime that they'd rather turn to an actual mafia for protection.
vasco 3y ago
> I think I can say this, whether I'm right wing or left wing, and intelligent people will agree. I wouldn't end any opinions like this if you want to be taken seriously.

zapataband1 3y ago

Cops in Chicago are currently investigating themselves for rape of immigrant minors housed in their facilities. Absolutely disgusting that people continue to cheer our broken police force, especially after Ulvalde.

function_seven 3y ago

I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen both the Gadsden flag and the thin blue line flag flying on the same house/truck/boat/whatever. Um, pick one, yeah?

s1artibartfast 3y ago
What you read into The Thin Blue Line flag depends heavily on where you land on the political Spectrum. Gadsden was a general in the Continental Army, so it's not like they were a complete anarchist. Unless someone's a complete anarchist, they understand that you need the rule of law and order to protect the civil liberties they hold dear. The type of person that has a thin blue line sticker probably does not view the police as the primary threat to their civil liberties
noduerme 3y ago
I'm not sure what your point is. I consider them both anti-American. Although my level of disgust is inherently higher with anything resembling and corrupting the American flag. I'm not a fan of flags anyway and I look down on people who care about them. If you think they sum up a political viewpoint, you're wrong, and it's still a sad commentary on the superficial nature of the debate we've been reduced to. [edit] it took me three reads of your comment to realize you were basically backing what I was saying. I'm an idiot, and I'm drunk at the moment. But yeah.
- function_seven 3y ago
  Yes to your edit. And also very much agreed on how the “alt” flags just defile the one that we’re supposed to be united under.
  - noduerme 3y ago
    yeah. I'm in a weird spot in SE Portland where it's practically considered racist, fascist and pro-war to display an American flag... while 20 miles outside the City at my gfs house there's unlimited blue line flags, MAGA hats, etc which I consider deeply unAmerican and fascist. Literally can't fly an American flag anywhere in my state without triggering a bad reaction somehow. My family are all immigrants and extremely proud of our country and thankful for what America provided for us. Also very liberal. It's difficult to explain this to anyone who loves or hates America who isn't from an immigrant background.

SantalBlush 3y ago

They're so afraid of crime that they'd rather turn to an actual mafia for protection.

vasco 3y ago

> I think I can say this, whether I'm right wing or left wing, and intelligent people will agree. I wouldn't end any opinions like this if you want to be taken seriously.