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Of course you're not "required to monitor", you're just also required not to be "deliberately blind". The combination of these is that you are required to main

Of course you're not "required to monitor", you're just also required not to be "deliberately blind". The combination of these is that you are required to maintain the capability to surveil users upon request (ie, no scary encryption) - and once that capability is in place, the next step is pseudo KYC and SAR functionality.

Kon-Peki 3y ago
The words “deliberately blind” aren’t in the text I linked to. I see a paragraph that says you can’t knowingly and willingly fail to make a report or you get fined. But the very next paragraph says this doesn’t mean you have to monitor anyone or screen or scan anything people write. I’m just not seeing it. What I do see is that a bunch of internet companies really don’t like the idea of being fined a lot of money every time their customer service AI makes a mistake when categorizing a complaint about drugs, because they know their customer service AI is garbage.
- slavboj 3y ago
  It's possible it's a versioning discrepancy - the language being referred to is here. Your version is "as introduced". During the committee process I believe it is possible for language to be altered before an actual vote without a formal "amendment". https://twitter.com/JakeLaperruque/status/1678887225516277761 https://twitter.com/JakeLaperruque/status/167888722551627776...
  - Kon-Peki 3y ago
    Fair enough. By the way, is there any reason to believe that governments are going to do anything with these reports?
    - jachee 3y ago
      Best case scenario, they don’t. Worst case scenario, they can arbitrarily ruin people’s lives. Hoping for the best, but planning for the worst in this case means fighting it tooth and nail.
    - tssva 3y ago
      The bill left the committee with a substitute as amendment. In other words a different version was introduced in committee and that is what was reported out of committee. The text of the version reported out of committee can be found at https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23876061-ell23484-managers-amendment-1 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23876061-ell23484-ma... The words "deliberately blind" can be found in this version.

Kon-Peki 3y ago

The words “deliberately blind” aren’t in the text I linked to. I see a paragraph that says you can’t knowingly and willingly fail to make a report or you get fined. But the very next paragraph says this doesn’t mean you have to monitor anyone or screen or scan anything people write. I’m just not seeing it. What I do see is that a bunch of internet companies really don’t like the idea of being fined a lot of money every time their customer service AI makes a mistake when categorizing a complaint about drugs, because they know their customer service AI is garbage.

slavboj 3y ago
It's possible it's a versioning discrepancy - the language being referred to is here. Your version is "as introduced". During the committee process I believe it is possible for language to be altered before an actual vote without a formal "amendment". https://twitter.com/JakeLaperruque/status/1678887225516277761 https://twitter.com/JakeLaperruque/status/167888722551627776...
- Kon-Peki 3y ago
  Fair enough. By the way, is there any reason to believe that governments are going to do anything with these reports?
  - jachee 3y ago
    Best case scenario, they don’t. Worst case scenario, they can arbitrarily ruin people’s lives. Hoping for the best, but planning for the worst in this case means fighting it tooth and nail.
  - tssva 3y ago
    The bill left the committee with a substitute as amendment. In other words a different version was introduced in committee and that is what was reported out of committee. The text of the version reported out of committee can be found at https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23876061-ell23484-managers-amendment-1 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23876061-ell23484-ma... The words "deliberately blind" can be found in this version.