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The Irish genocide happened because the British took their food and only left them with potatoes, which were suffering from a fungal disease. What makes you thi
by arrosenberg 3y ago
The Irish genocide happened because the British took their food and only left them with potatoes, which were suffering from a fungal disease. What makes you think the Empire would have let them keep their clams?
- smegger001 3y agoBecause clams don't travel well in a world before refrigeration.
- bobthepanda 3y agoThey can if they’re canned.
- hgomersall 3y agoAmerican independence well predated canning.
- bobthepanda 3y agoI thought we were talking about the potato famine?
- hgomersall 3y agoOh, I thought it was a reference to the oysters from New York being claimed by the British.
- TRiG_Ireland 3y agoIreland was very much an agrarian place at the time, with very little manufacturing or heavy industry. I'm not at all sure there would have been support for industrial-scale canning.
- arrosenberg 3y agoThere were plenty of factories in nearby Manchester and Liverpool.
- smegger001 3y agoBoth of which are in the middle of England which would have involved shipping shellfish to England before the invention of refrigeration. Oceanic travel on the fastest steam powered passenger vessels of the time maxed out at 13 knots or approximately 15 mph. Cargo ships are going to be slower many will be using sail so closer to 6 knots. Dublin to to Liverpool is about 191 miles by sea. So 31 hours away just counting transit how long are these warm clams good for?
- arrosenberg 3y ago> warm clams Was it warm in the North Atlantic in the 1840s winters? Shellfish will keep for a few days to a week at refrigeration temperatures, 31 hours seems feasible at least several months a year in this hypothetical scenario.
- bobthepanda 3y agoNot to mention that, pre-refrigeration, they did literally ship ice around the world: https://crystalicela.com/how-ice-delivered-before-refrigerators/#:~:text=Insulation%20such%20as%20tin%20and,how%20families%20ordered%20their%20ice https://crystalicela.com/how-ice-delivered-before-refrigerat....
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