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Have you tried contacting support? https://www.oracle.com/virtualization/contact-form.html https://www.oracle.com/virtualization/contact-form.html

smarx007 3y ago
He did contact HN, a premier provider of support. /s
- Uehreka 3y ago
  What you wrote was cleanly executed sarcasm on its own. The /s is only for people who don’t know what they’re doing, you can remove it.
  - bdowling 3y ago
    Haven't you heard of Poe's Law? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law.
    - Uehreka 3y ago
      Poe’s Law is vastly over-invoked. In any social setting where some amount of context can be assumed, it doesn’t apply. And even if someone wanted to challenge me on that, I’d argue that the tiny number of people who would think “HN is a tech support site” is being said seriously aren’t worth the two seconds it takes to type “/s”.
      - saghm 3y ago
        The time it takes to type `/s` is a decent bit lower than two seconds, and yet the amount of time you've spend trying to argue that it's not worth it is vastly more.
      - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
        > In any social setting where some amount of context can be assumed, it doesn’t apply. That amount is larger than is available in most (probably all) HN comment sections.
      - bdowling 3y ago
        I invoked Poe’s law sarcastically. I’m surprised you didn’t realize that, given how over-invoked it is here. I guess there’s always someone who doesn’t get the joke. /s. <—- shouldn’t be necessary, but is, obviously. /s <—- not sure if necessary here.
        Uehreka 3y ago
        But this is exactly what I’m saying: if you’re sarcastic and the audience gets it, it’s good sarcasm. If you’re sarcastic and the audience doesn’t get it, it’s bad sarcasm. If you don’t have a clear enough context, just don’t be sarcastic.
        bdowling 3y ago
        There’s always someone who doesn’t get the joke. Even today, there are people who, at least at first, are fooled into thinking that Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” was a serious proposal.
  - readthenotes1 3y ago
    You forgot your /s...
  - hunter2_ 3y ago
    In spoken word, sarcasm in even the cleanest context always has the benefit of delivery paving the way for virtually guaranteed reception. A written indication does look silly when reception succeeds without its help, but guaranteed parity with speech seems like the winning maneuver.
    - johnnyworker 3y ago
      The whole point of sarcasm is to say something you don't mean, and people who know you or other facts well enough, can get a dopamine hit for being able to infer that. It's just an ingroup/bonding thing and carries no information or value outside of that. At any rate, adding a /s is like saying "just being sarcastic", might as well not be sarcastic in the first place.
      - hunter2_ 3y ago
        I think what you're describing is a subset of sarcasm, or potentially a separate thing that often utilizes sarcasm (significant overlap). A friend of mine will often suffix such statements in speech with "if you know you know" in the event that the delivery alone isn't sufficient to trigger everyone's memory, and "IYKYK" in text. Pure sarcasm has no such prerequisite, which means that delivery alone (tone, cadence, and smirk) is almost always sufficient. These give away the fact that sarcasm is happening to roughly the same extent that "/s" does, just that we have more experience with the former so the latter tends to feel too spoon-fed.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Search hn for "stripe". Not clear sarcasm.

smarx007 3y ago

He did contact HN, a premier provider of support. /s

Uehreka 3y ago
What you wrote was cleanly executed sarcasm on its own. The /s is only for people who don’t know what they’re doing, you can remove it.
- bdowling 3y ago
  Haven't you heard of Poe's Law? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law.
  - Uehreka 3y ago
    Poe’s Law is vastly over-invoked. In any social setting where some amount of context can be assumed, it doesn’t apply. And even if someone wanted to challenge me on that, I’d argue that the tiny number of people who would think “HN is a tech support site” is being said seriously aren’t worth the two seconds it takes to type “/s”.
    - saghm 3y ago
      The time it takes to type `/s` is a decent bit lower than two seconds, and yet the amount of time you've spend trying to argue that it's not worth it is vastly more.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      > In any social setting where some amount of context can be assumed, it doesn’t apply. That amount is larger than is available in most (probably all) HN comment sections.
    - bdowling 3y ago
      I invoked Poe’s law sarcastically. I’m surprised you didn’t realize that, given how over-invoked it is here. I guess there’s always someone who doesn’t get the joke. /s. <—- shouldn’t be necessary, but is, obviously. /s <—- not sure if necessary here.
      - Uehreka 3y ago
        But this is exactly what I’m saying: if you’re sarcastic and the audience gets it, it’s good sarcasm. If you’re sarcastic and the audience doesn’t get it, it’s bad sarcasm. If you don’t have a clear enough context, just don’t be sarcastic.
        bdowling 3y ago
        There’s always someone who doesn’t get the joke. Even today, there are people who, at least at first, are fooled into thinking that Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” was a serious proposal.
- readthenotes1 3y ago
  You forgot your /s...
- hunter2_ 3y ago
  In spoken word, sarcasm in even the cleanest context always has the benefit of delivery paving the way for virtually guaranteed reception. A written indication does look silly when reception succeeds without its help, but guaranteed parity with speech seems like the winning maneuver.
  - johnnyworker 3y ago
    The whole point of sarcasm is to say something you don't mean, and people who know you or other facts well enough, can get a dopamine hit for being able to infer that. It's just an ingroup/bonding thing and carries no information or value outside of that. At any rate, adding a /s is like saying "just being sarcastic", might as well not be sarcastic in the first place.
    - hunter2_ 3y ago
      I think what you're describing is a subset of sarcasm, or potentially a separate thing that often utilizes sarcasm (significant overlap). A friend of mine will often suffix such statements in speech with "if you know you know" in the event that the delivery alone isn't sufficient to trigger everyone's memory, and "IYKYK" in text. Pure sarcasm has no such prerequisite, which means that delivery alone (tone, cadence, and smirk) is almost always sufficient. These give away the fact that sarcasm is happening to roughly the same extent that "/s" does, just that we have more experience with the former so the latter tends to feel too spoon-fed.
- DANmode 3y ago
  Search hn for "stripe". Not clear sarcasm.