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Is the frog boiling yet? Can we start doing something about all this now please?
by llamaLord 3y ago
Is the frog boiling yet? Can we start doing something about all this now please?
- pstuart 3y ago[flagged]
- llamaLord 3y agoHonestly this is the thing that scares me the most, for non-trivia portion of the population the apocalypse isn't necessarily something to avoid, its almost equivalent to their "endgame".
- pstuart 3y agoYeah, me too. And that same craziness extends all the way up the stack to so much more day to day pain and suffering.
- fbrncci 3y agoDo what, exactly?
- gary_0 3y agoIt's December 7, 1941. The Japanese have just attacked Pearl Harbor. Suddenly, most people realize the status quo has changed. The economy needs to make a major transition. Things need to be built at an unprecedented rate. Sacrifices will need to be made at every level because survival is on the line. Victory is possible but it will be a long and difficult fight. Do we throw up our collective hands and say "it's too hard, the job is too big, not enough people are willing, we surrender"? Or do we shut up and get to work? The transition away from a carbon-emitting economy can be done if we have the will, and we will come out of it stronger than ever. We just need to stop saying we can't, and start building.
- kupopuffs 3y agoI'm pretty sure working harder, when done haphazardly, will worsen things
- gary_0 3y agoYes, plenty of alternative energy technologies will emit too much carbon during the transition to make them viable. Right now, whenever we build something, we have GHG byproducts all over the place, so we have to really do the math first. A lot of needles will have to be threaded in the coming years if our civilization as we know it is going to survive. But that doesn't mean we should just give up. And half measures are no longer an option.
- LargeTomato 3y agoThis is silly. How can you possibly make such a sweeping statement? How can you possibly believe 7 billion people would feverishly begin working towards something with no sense of plan or intentionally?
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- myshpa 3y agoI'll bite. For start - stop fossil fuels in transport & energy, minimize plastic production - stop subsidizing meat & dairy, reform agriculture (pollution, eutrophication, soils) - reforest / rewild pastures, stop overfishing (carbon capture, biodiversity) - degrowth & basic income, remove financial drivers of exponential growth (prevent repetition) ASAP everything, 2050 is too late.
- thedrbrian 3y agoso we go back to the caves then.
- myshpa 3y agoWe have 2 choices now. Either we do it, or we let nature handle the problem. One option is much better than the other.
- happytiger 3y agoJust for the common people. They’re going to fly private jets to every meeting to talk about how best to do it, and meet on their 400 foot yachts afterwards to sign the agreements. The tyrants always sell themselves as the answer to the apocalypse. Everyone you know is going to die. Society is always heading towards multiple kinds of total destruction. Anyone who uses that to try to take control of us is a tyrant. We shouldn’t sacrifice society at the feet of fear, especially to the very people in charge of the factories and industries causing the problems. I don’t deny global warming. But I don’t believe the people claiming to have the answers and I’m not willing to follow Hitler logic to take people back to the Stone Age as the “solution” to the problem because I read books (and you shouldn’t either). But I guarantee you others will put this forward as the “inevitable logic” or “nature will do it for us if we don’t sacrifice everything” as if technology has done nothing and we can’t possibly come back into balance with nature without utterly obliterating human civilization. It’s actually kind of batshit. Nuclear anyone? No?
- boffinAudio 3y agoIncrease the tempo of Starship launches. Head to Psyche 16, build more Starships. Move China to Psyche 16. Drop Tesla's and iPhones from space onto Earth, which is now a garden.
- appleflaxen 3y agoMaybe we should stop subsidizing the fossil fuel industry, and start a schedule of steady tax increases on it so that remembers become gradually but overwhelming cheaper to use.