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> 1200km is more than enough. Nobody should be driving longer distances in one day anyway. No not really. When they say 1200km that's under ideal conditions. P

by dheera 3y ago

> 1200km is more than enough. Nobody should be driving longer distances in one day anyway. No not really. When they say 1200km that's under ideal conditions. Put a roof rack, a kayak or two bikes, load it up with 4 passengers and a trunk full of luggage, and drive up into the mountains on a hot summer day with the air conditioner on full blast, and you're probably looking at a range of 400km. And your destination probably doesn't have a place to charge overnight. This whole "in one day" mentality is the problem. If you're going to the backcountry of death valley where there is absolutely no civilization, you want your vehicle to hold enough energy for your entire trip, not just for one day.

mcswell 3y ago
You do realize that if you do all of those things in an ICE, you'll get a similar drop in range, right? At any rate, most people never do all those things, nor do they go into some death valley. Because most of us don't like death. As for the charging places, yes that is an issue. I never had trouble filling my horse with that gasoline stuff, either.
- dheera 3y ago
  > You do realize that if you do all of those things in an ICE, you'll get a similar drop in range, right? Yes but when most people talk about 400 miles of range in an ICE car they are usually referring to at least typical (==harsh, if you are in the western part of the US) conditions with AC on full blast and lots of mountains. When EV companies boast 400 miles of range they're testing it on an ideal track. Very different. I have a model 3 long range, advertised 358 miles, I get nowhere near that, more like 200 miles in realistic California conditions, which are (a) searing heat in the central valley in summer (b) mountains everywhere else (c) biting cold in the winter anywhere in the far north or far east part of the state (d) stop sign hell in the bay area which forces you to stop and go every block.

by dheera 3y ago

mcswell 3y ago

You do realize that if you do all of those things in an ICE, you'll get a similar drop in range, right? At any rate, most people never do all those things, nor do they go into some death valley. Because most of us don't like death. As for the charging places, yes that is an issue. I never had trouble filling my horse with that gasoline stuff, either.

dheera 3y ago
> You do realize that if you do all of those things in an ICE, you'll get a similar drop in range, right? Yes but when most people talk about 400 miles of range in an ICE car they are usually referring to at least typical (==harsh, if you are in the western part of the US) conditions with AC on full blast and lots of mountains. When EV companies boast 400 miles of range they're testing it on an ideal track. Very different. I have a model 3 long range, advertised 358 miles, I get nowhere near that, more like 200 miles in realistic California conditions, which are (a) searing heat in the central valley in summer (b) mountains everywhere else (c) biting cold in the winter anywhere in the far north or far east part of the state (d) stop sign hell in the bay area which forces you to stop and go every block.