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> Tesla has already come out and said they could make cars that drive twice as far You actually believed them? Tesla, that has a long track record of lying ab

> Tesla has already come out and said they could make cars that drive twice as far You actually believed them? Tesla, that has a long track record of lying about what they can do, when they can deliver etc? That is facing major competition from every established car manufacturer who are all shipping vehicles with similar range to Tesla? If they could release a car with double the distance/capacity they would. It would be a huge competitive advantage that no other manufacturer (except _possibly_ Toyota, if the article is to be believed) can match.

panick21_ 3y ago
> You actually believed them? Tesla, that has a long track record of lying about what they can do This is just basic physics not a conspiracy theory. It simply doesn't make sense to massively improve distance.
sigmoid10 3y ago
There are cars like the Lucid Air which actually offer significantly more range than even the long range Teslas, while using the same battery tech (at a higher price point of course). They just recently had to scale down production because demand was waaaay below expectations. Tesla's best selling variants are also not the long range models, so it's not surprising that people won't pay for another 30% premium on something they barely ever need.
zaroth 3y ago
Actually it wouldn’t be an advantage. It would be a huge sunk cost (and added weight bogging down performance and handling) for a feature that virtually never gets used. Tesla increases distance ideally by increasing efficiency. Their cars consistently score the best/lowest Wh/mi for their weight, by doing things like designing their own heat pump instead of traditional AC and resistive heating. Because EV production is virtually always constrained by battery production, the number of cars you can sell is typically your battery production capacity (MWh) divided by your battery capacity per vehicle. Their inherent efficiency combined with the Supercharger network to support longer trips lets them produce more cars at a lower cost / price.

panick21_ 3y ago

> You actually believed them? Tesla, that has a long track record of lying about what they can do This is just basic physics not a conspiracy theory. It simply doesn't make sense to massively improve distance.

sigmoid10 3y ago

There are cars like the Lucid Air which actually offer significantly more range than even the long range Teslas, while using the same battery tech (at a higher price point of course). They just recently had to scale down production because demand was waaaay below expectations. Tesla's best selling variants are also not the long range models, so it's not surprising that people won't pay for another 30% premium on something they barely ever need.

zaroth 3y ago

Actually it wouldn’t be an advantage. It would be a huge sunk cost (and added weight bogging down performance and handling) for a feature that virtually never gets used. Tesla increases distance ideally by increasing efficiency. Their cars consistently score the best/lowest Wh/mi for their weight, by doing things like designing their own heat pump instead of traditional AC and resistive heating. Because EV production is virtually always constrained by battery production, the number of cars you can sell is typically your battery production capacity (MWh) divided by your battery capacity per vehicle. Their inherent efficiency combined with the Supercharger network to support longer trips lets them produce more cars at a lower cost / price.