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Travel and immigration restrictions were lifted from Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia. If it wasn't for this, their EU accession process would've remained

Travel and immigration restrictions were lifted from Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia. If it wasn't for this, their EU accession process would've remained dead in the water due to severe structural and societal issues that are now being entirely overlooked. Other countries that have been way up the queue aren't getting the same preferential treatment for some reason. There's war and suffering in Ukraine. But there's even more war and more severe suffering in other parts of the world. They don't get the same "open arms" treatment though (often, it's where brown people live).

photonbeam 3y ago
Once the war is over I’m sure they’ll suddenly start insisting previous requirements
wkat4242 3y ago
I have to say I agree with this. Ukraine has very different values than the EU and corruption/oligarchy is still rampant. We have to be careful which countries we let in as we have already made this mistake with Hungary. Right now there isn't even a way to kick them out again. The idealistic view that joining the EU will automatically fix their society is clearly wrong. If you see other eastern European countries like Romania where even their own president protests (in vain) on the street for their corrupt government to go it's clear to me that this process should be stricter. But all this seems to be overlooked in favor of geopolitical concerns (giving Putin the finger and territorial expansion) This is not about the Ukrainian people by the way. They're mostly nice except the Russian-friendly ones in the East. But it's their government and economic model. It's the same way the average Russian doesn't even like Putin but has no way to remove him. Zelensky is a good guy but he can't fight the war and fix his country at the same time. Also we have to worry about who comes next, after all Hungary was a decent country when they joined, Orban only came later.

photonbeam 3y ago

Once the war is over I’m sure they’ll suddenly start insisting previous requirements

wkat4242 3y ago

I have to say I agree with this. Ukraine has very different values than the EU and corruption/oligarchy is still rampant. We have to be careful which countries we let in as we have already made this mistake with Hungary. Right now there isn't even a way to kick them out again. The idealistic view that joining the EU will automatically fix their society is clearly wrong. If you see other eastern European countries like Romania where even their own president protests (in vain) on the street for their corrupt government to go it's clear to me that this process should be stricter. But all this seems to be overlooked in favor of geopolitical concerns (giving Putin the finger and territorial expansion) This is not about the Ukrainian people by the way. They're mostly nice except the Russian-friendly ones in the East. But it's their government and economic model. It's the same way the average Russian doesn't even like Putin but has no way to remove him. Zelensky is a good guy but he can't fight the war and fix his country at the same time. Also we have to worry about who comes next, after all Hungary was a decent country when they joined, Orban only came later.