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> And yet the world has not stopped. In fact everything seems to be going faster than ever. Indeed. I know many people who used to religiously go to the offic
by traceroute66 3y ago
> And yet the world has not stopped. In fact everything seems to be going faster than ever.
Indeed.
I know many people who used to religiously go to the office 5-days a week. The only time they were not in the office was when they were on holiday or they were sick. It's what they did for their entire working lives. And in some cases it's what "custom and practice" historically dictated in their industry, e.g. those working in the financial sector.
The pandemic forced their hand. And now my unscientific sample would suggest 80-90% of them now only go to the office for client meetings. Most weeks they don't go at all, or maybe they pop-in for a couple of hours on their way somewhere else. There is the occasional week where they do a full-day in the office for one or two days. But nobody I know is anywhere near the old 5-days a week regime.
Employers attempting to force (or, if we're being polite "strongly encourage") people to return 5-days a week are playing a loosing game.
The future is now and the future is hybrid or fully-remote for 99% of jobs. There are very few jobs out there that genuinely need you to be in a different building 5-days a week to do your job.
- chmod600 3y ago"The future is now and the future is hybrid or fully-remote for 99% of jobs." I assume you mean for 99% of office jobs.
- devilbunny 3y agoYeah, you can't be anything blue-collar remotely. As well as jobs like healthcare. Lots of jobs still require you to physically interact with people or things.
- supportengineer 3y agoAll of those jobs should pay MUCH more.
- devilbunny 3y agoHow much more, and how do you propose to pay for it?
- osigurdson 3y agoMaybe, but as always supply and demand are at play. Perhaps in the future these jobs will pay much more than “information only” jobs but there are also other dynamics involved as well.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y agoI wonder if that's because you give a lot of value to remote work. It's full of people wanting to go back to the office too and that are really looking for day to day human interaction, so the value is way lower than if we consider the one that people who enjoy remote work give it.
- chmod600 3y agoWhat does "should" mean? If I say "you should really get that cut checked out, it looks infected", then I'm making a recommendation to you or giving you advice (solicited or not). But here you seem to be giving advice to a class of jobs, which doesn't make a lot of sense. A class of jobs has no agency. Are you advising plumbers (one example of a blue collar job) to charge more for their services? I'm sure the thought occurred to them and it doesn't work for one reason or another. Are you advising customers of the plumber to pay more? Have you ever requested plumber services, and if so, did you pay the plumber "much more" (in other words, are you taking your own advice)?
- lost_tourist 3y agowhy should they though? They pay what the market will bear. They could pay a bit more if they would unionize successfully. Also lots of them do pay more when people take a risk and enter specialties and openly look for opportunity. You aren't going to make 100k digging ditches, but you can easily make that much as a plumber or electrician or machining expert.