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You are clearly on a mission. The key thing that I think you are missing is that you are conflating miners with mining engineers. You have very specific exper

You are clearly on a mission. The key thing that I think you are missing is that you are conflating miners with mining engineers. You have very specific experiences and are close to mining in a way that the broader public isn't. To lost of the broader public, when they say miner they mean a guy that's all black from digging coal carrying a pick axe. The grandparent comment was referring to that, old, industrial revolution image of a miner. You shouldn't take offense.

defrost 3y ago
> The key thing that I think you are missing is that you are conflating miners with mining engineers. Not at all - I'm talking about miners as in "all the people that work on the minesites that produce the overwhelming mass of raw minerals extracted ever year". Mining engineer is just one job of many. Electrians, boilermakers, diesal mechanics, storemasters, riggers, splicers, uphole drillers, control system specialists, machine operators (generally ticketed by machine class of which there are many), blast specialists, track and rail crews, . . . . These are all skilled trades. > To lots of the broader public, when they say miner they mean a guy that's all black from digging coal carrying a pick axe. Yes, they do. And that's essentially incorrect. I'm pointing out that is incorrect .. and for some reason you're apparently taking issue with that correction. I'm not offended that many people have many misconceptions about many things, occasionally, as above, I point out misconceptions and move on. I am perplexed as to why yourself, an apparent self declared graduate of a school of mines that presumeably teaches some skill set, goes to such lengths to oppose correction to stereotype. I'm starting to wonder whether in fact you've ever actually worked on a minesite.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  I haven't, never said I did. I wanted to put this to bed so I pulled some stats. It turns out it's shades of Grey. According to the BLM the average wage for the mining industry in the US is $21 an hour. According to the stats linked to below there are several industries above Mining as far S average wage, some significantly so. But at the same time mining is way above the service and accommodations industry, which is dead last on this data. Which I think was your point. Mining shouldn't be compared to the accommodations industry as far as average wage and technical skill are concerned. Just because both come in below the top 5 or so doesn't mean they're all at the bottom. https://www.statista.com/statistics/243834/annual-mean-wages-and-salary-per-employee-in-the-us-by-industry/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/243834/annual-mean-wages...

defrost 3y ago

> The key thing that I think you are missing is that you are conflating miners with mining engineers. Not at all - I'm talking about miners as in "all the people that work on the minesites that produce the overwhelming mass of raw minerals extracted ever year". Mining engineer is just one job of many. Electrians, boilermakers, diesal mechanics, storemasters, riggers, splicers, uphole drillers, control system specialists, machine operators (generally ticketed by machine class of which there are many), blast specialists, track and rail crews, . . . . These are all skilled trades. > To lots of the broader public, when they say miner they mean a guy that's all black from digging coal carrying a pick axe. Yes, they do. And that's essentially incorrect. I'm pointing out that is incorrect .. and for some reason you're apparently taking issue with that correction. I'm not offended that many people have many misconceptions about many things, occasionally, as above, I point out misconceptions and move on. I am perplexed as to why yourself, an apparent self declared graduate of a school of mines that presumeably teaches some skill set, goes to such lengths to oppose correction to stereotype. I'm starting to wonder whether in fact you've ever actually worked on a minesite.

iancmceachern 3y ago
I haven't, never said I did. I wanted to put this to bed so I pulled some stats. It turns out it's shades of Grey. According to the BLM the average wage for the mining industry in the US is $21 an hour. According to the stats linked to below there are several industries above Mining as far S average wage, some significantly so. But at the same time mining is way above the service and accommodations industry, which is dead last on this data. Which I think was your point. Mining shouldn't be compared to the accommodations industry as far as average wage and technical skill are concerned. Just because both come in below the top 5 or so doesn't mean they're all at the bottom. https://www.statista.com/statistics/243834/annual-mean-wages-and-salary-per-employee-in-the-us-by-industry/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/243834/annual-mean-wages...