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Gotta push back gently against your push back. First you make a good point about raw milk - it is raw and hasn't been "pasteurized". The source of any raw milk

Gotta push back gently against your push back. First you make a good point about raw milk - it is raw and hasn't been "pasteurized". The source of any raw milk needs to be checked carefully. And all milk needs to be handled properly. However "raw milk can go bad easily and I mean it can blow up ... etc" is not helpful. Millions of people did and do drink raw milk. Cheese was invented by people because raw milk was so valuable as food that it was stored for long periods of time. In the present day we are informed of risks in a sometimes random way. Automobiles are perhaps the most dangerous things in our lives. And they certainly do go bad and explode. Or crash into people. Yet we still drive and cross the street. We manage our risks. Our food supply is now managed for us by giant corporations. They try very hard to make as much profit as possible - often by using materials and processes that are untested and may cause unexpected problems. BPA? Forever chemicals anyone? Thalidomide? Have you looked at what they have done to chicken? And perhaps most important is obesity. Sugar anyone? How many aisles in your grocery store are completely devoted to sugar? How many to salt? Did you know that purchasing these supposedly safe products may cause you to explode? :-) So in your risk assessment you might consider your health risks from all sources. I am not arguing against being careful, just to intelligently whey your choices.

housemusicfan 3y ago
> First you make a good point about raw milk - it is raw and hasn't been "pasteurized" Why the scare quotes? Pasteurization is one of the most important contributions to public health in the last 500 years.
- fuzztester 3y ago
  >Pasteurization is one of the most important contributions to public health in the last 500 years. Right. And it was invented / discovered by Louis Pasteur, who also made some other important discoveries related to health and disease. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur We learned about him in high school.
dale_glass 3y ago
> In the present day we are informed of risks in a sometimes random way. Automobiles are perhaps the most dangerous things in our lives. And they certainly do go bad and explode. Or crash into people. Yet we still drive and cross the street. We manage our risks. We manage that risk through rules and safety regulations, like ABS and airbags. > Our food supply is now managed for us by giant corporations. They try very hard to make as much profit as possible - often by using materials and processes that are untested and may cause unexpected problems. Pasteurization is just heating milk. It's one of the best tested processes in existence. Rejecting safety measures is just rolling back centuries of progress. Those giant corporations would love it if they didn't have to take elaborate precautions to make food and cars safe, because those take effort and cost a lot of money to provide.
- thomasahle 3y ago
  > Rejecting safety measures is just rolling back centuries of progress. Of course we have to sometimes roll back safety measures as the world changes. * Many places that used to chlorinate water no longer do, because the water has gotten cleaner. * The US chlorinate's chicken, and hopefully they'll stop at some point. * Many places no longer require you to heat eggs, because salmonella had been eradicated. * Nobody wears covid masks anymore because the risk of covid is so low. Here's to hoping we'll be able to roll back many more safety regulations in the future.

housemusicfan 3y ago

> First you make a good point about raw milk - it is raw and hasn't been "pasteurized" Why the scare quotes? Pasteurization is one of the most important contributions to public health in the last 500 years.

fuzztester 3y ago
>Pasteurization is one of the most important contributions to public health in the last 500 years. Right. And it was invented / discovered by Louis Pasteur, who also made some other important discoveries related to health and disease. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur We learned about him in high school.

dale_glass 3y ago

> In the present day we are informed of risks in a sometimes random way. Automobiles are perhaps the most dangerous things in our lives. And they certainly do go bad and explode. Or crash into people. Yet we still drive and cross the street. We manage our risks. We manage that risk through rules and safety regulations, like ABS and airbags. > Our food supply is now managed for us by giant corporations. They try very hard to make as much profit as possible - often by using materials and processes that are untested and may cause unexpected problems. Pasteurization is just heating milk. It's one of the best tested processes in existence. Rejecting safety measures is just rolling back centuries of progress. Those giant corporations would love it if they didn't have to take elaborate precautions to make food and cars safe, because those take effort and cost a lot of money to provide.

thomasahle 3y ago
> Rejecting safety measures is just rolling back centuries of progress. Of course we have to sometimes roll back safety measures as the world changes. * Many places that used to chlorinate water no longer do, because the water has gotten cleaner. * The US chlorinate's chicken, and hopefully they'll stop at some point. * Many places no longer require you to heat eggs, because salmonella had been eradicated. * Nobody wears covid masks anymore because the risk of covid is so low. Here's to hoping we'll be able to roll back many more safety regulations in the future.