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> until recently the online tool who.is indicated that the [Polish arbitration court, Pan-Europejski-Sąd-Arbitrażowy] PESA website was set up by Villa Europa it

> until recently the online tool who.is indicated that the [Polish arbitration court, Pan-Europejski-Sąd-Arbitrażowy] PESA website was set up by Villa Europa itself in September 2021 Quite alarming. Is it normal to charge speakers such high fees? I remember some conferences giving free admission to speakers as encouragement.

jacquesm 3y ago
No, it's normal to pay speakers or to at least accommodate their expenses. This was just a scam.
- Closi 3y ago
  I don’t think this is quite right with all conferences - I’ve personally found it quite common for these event companies to give talks to “platinum” sponsors as an indirect way of charging for them. (Although this particular instance sounds like a scam)
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Yes, true, there are 'pay for play' conferences but that's not the kind of conference that these scientists are normally approached for.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Yeah, many conferences absolutely rely on company sponsorships to cover some or even most of their costs and many of those packages cover some sort of speaking slot among other things (booths, logos, swag bags, etc.). And some conferences have a lot of that sort of pay to play going on. But maybe because I'm used to it that seems different from a naked speaking fee situation.
- wincy 3y ago
  It depends on the type of conference. My wife went to a politically focused conference recently and while there were some paid speakers there were a lot of speakers who got stage time by virtue of paying the $2000 or so for a booth on the floor of the conference. She said these speakers were annoying as they’d try to keep talking when they’d run out of time and the sound guy would have to resort to cutting their audio or playing music loudly to get them to get off stage. Everything but the long pole with a hook basically.
ghaff 3y ago
The norm at tech conferences is to waive conference fees. For certain types of speakers (industry analysts, headliners for keynotes, other people that conferences want that can't afford to pay their own way), it's normal to cover some expenses and pay them to a greater or lesser degree. I have never in decades literally paid to speak at a conference. (Sponsoring companies may of course have a sponsor package that includes some stage time for an employee among other benefits like booth space.) But directly paying to be a speaker? Absolutely not normal.
- indymike 3y ago
  > But directly paying to be a speaker? Absolutely not normal. The only time it's normal to pay to speak is when you are sponsoring an event.

jacquesm 3y ago

No, it's normal to pay speakers or to at least accommodate their expenses. This was just a scam.

Closi 3y ago
I don’t think this is quite right with all conferences - I’ve personally found it quite common for these event companies to give talks to “platinum” sponsors as an indirect way of charging for them. (Although this particular instance sounds like a scam)
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Yes, true, there are 'pay for play' conferences but that's not the kind of conference that these scientists are normally approached for.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Yeah, many conferences absolutely rely on company sponsorships to cover some or even most of their costs and many of those packages cover some sort of speaking slot among other things (booths, logos, swag bags, etc.). And some conferences have a lot of that sort of pay to play going on. But maybe because I'm used to it that seems different from a naked speaking fee situation.
wincy 3y ago
It depends on the type of conference. My wife went to a politically focused conference recently and while there were some paid speakers there were a lot of speakers who got stage time by virtue of paying the $2000 or so for a booth on the floor of the conference. She said these speakers were annoying as they’d try to keep talking when they’d run out of time and the sound guy would have to resort to cutting their audio or playing music loudly to get them to get off stage. Everything but the long pole with a hook basically.

ghaff 3y ago

The norm at tech conferences is to waive conference fees. For certain types of speakers (industry analysts, headliners for keynotes, other people that conferences want that can't afford to pay their own way), it's normal to cover some expenses and pay them to a greater or lesser degree. I have never in decades literally paid to speak at a conference. (Sponsoring companies may of course have a sponsor package that includes some stage time for an employee among other benefits like booth space.) But directly paying to be a speaker? Absolutely not normal.

indymike 3y ago
> But directly paying to be a speaker? Absolutely not normal. The only time it's normal to pay to speak is when you are sponsoring an event.