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Tesla also released the Model Y 4 years ago and now it may outsell the Corolla this year. What do the waitlist and sales for the RAV4 or Prius Primes look like?

justsid 3y ago
I’m in the market for a RAV4 plugin hybrid and the wait time here is at least a year if not two. I’d love a Toyota EV though, I have no interest in a Tesla so if Toyota truly entered the market I’d be all over it.
jdeibele 3y ago
5 to 24 months according to this site: https://rav4resource.com/rav4-prime-availability/#:~:text=How%20long%20is%20the%20waiting,dealerships%20that%20I%20spoke%20to https://rav4resource.com/rav4-prime-availability/#:~:text=Ho... I was looking at plug-in hybrids and ran across a reference to people having to wait 2 years for a RAV4 Prime.
bdcravens 3y ago
They announced the Cybertruck that year and they still haven't delivered one, and ditto for the new Roadster 2 years prior. Tesla has demonstrated that long development cycles aren't bad, especially when creating a new tech (the Model Y is built on the Model 3 platform)
- pie420 3y ago
  The cybertruck was largely a marketing exercise, and hype generator, same as the Roadster 2. They were "announced" in a time when Tesla needed all the spare cash it could get, so they opened up pre-orders that they had no intention of fulfilling for 4-5 years.
- SyzygistSix 3y ago
  Weird how the largest pandemic in 100 years, supply chain issues, and huge demand for the Model Y made changing plans a good idea. That is what competent leaders do; make decisions in the best interest of the company, rather than adhere to arbitrary timelines. Maybe they should be making decisions like Toyota instead.
  - bdcravens 3y ago
    Perhaps pay attention to the topic of the thread, and not treat every Tesla discussion as an opportunity to prove your loyalty and defend the honor of Elon. We are literally discussing the idea that Toyota can take their time to get something right, because Tesla has done the same thing, to great success.
katbyte 3y ago
likely referring to cybertuck, tesla semi, actual FSD, and all the other promises from musk that were "next year"
- SyzygistSix 3y ago
  When things like the pandemic and disrupted supply chains happen, companies sometimes need to move in a different direction than planned. Or is Tesla's massive growth in the last few years and sales numbers not enough to convince you they might actually know what they are doing? Successful companies don't adhere to arbitrary announcements and timelines; they change plans when necessary.
  - bdcravens 3y ago
    The world was hungry for EVs; Tesla had products to sell. As other options become available, their lead has shrinked over time.
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sgarman 3y ago
It did outsell the Corolla, it was the 2 most popular car sold in America only behind the Ford F150 which has been number one for FORTY YEARS.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  Nobody can cure America's fetish for TRUCKS =)

justsid 3y ago

I’m in the market for a RAV4 plugin hybrid and the wait time here is at least a year if not two. I’d love a Toyota EV though, I have no interest in a Tesla so if Toyota truly entered the market I’d be all over it.

jdeibele 3y ago

5 to 24 months according to this site: https://rav4resource.com/rav4-prime-availability/#:~:text=How%20long%20is%20the%20waiting,dealerships%20that%20I%20spoke%20to https://rav4resource.com/rav4-prime-availability/#:~:text=Ho... I was looking at plug-in hybrids and ran across a reference to people having to wait 2 years for a RAV4 Prime.

bdcravens 3y ago

They announced the Cybertruck that year and they still haven't delivered one, and ditto for the new Roadster 2 years prior. Tesla has demonstrated that long development cycles aren't bad, especially when creating a new tech (the Model Y is built on the Model 3 platform)

pie420 3y ago
The cybertruck was largely a marketing exercise, and hype generator, same as the Roadster 2. They were "announced" in a time when Tesla needed all the spare cash it could get, so they opened up pre-orders that they had no intention of fulfilling for 4-5 years.
SyzygistSix 3y ago
Weird how the largest pandemic in 100 years, supply chain issues, and huge demand for the Model Y made changing plans a good idea. That is what competent leaders do; make decisions in the best interest of the company, rather than adhere to arbitrary timelines. Maybe they should be making decisions like Toyota instead.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Perhaps pay attention to the topic of the thread, and not treat every Tesla discussion as an opportunity to prove your loyalty and defend the honor of Elon. We are literally discussing the idea that Toyota can take their time to get something right, because Tesla has done the same thing, to great success.

katbyte 3y ago

likely referring to cybertuck, tesla semi, actual FSD, and all the other promises from musk that were "next year"

SyzygistSix 3y ago
When things like the pandemic and disrupted supply chains happen, companies sometimes need to move in a different direction than planned. Or is Tesla's massive growth in the last few years and sales numbers not enough to convince you they might actually know what they are doing? Successful companies don't adhere to arbitrary announcements and timelines; they change plans when necessary.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  The world was hungry for EVs; Tesla had products to sell. As other options become available, their lead has shrinked over time.
- deleted 3y ago
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sgarman 3y ago

It did outsell the Corolla, it was the 2 most popular car sold in America only behind the Ford F150 which has been number one for FORTY YEARS.

theshrike79 3y ago
Nobody can cure America's fetish for TRUCKS =)