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I’m similarly concerned about opaque systems. But, chose to trade-off my concern for the convenience. But, could you simply not create an Apple account in the

I’m similarly concerned about opaque systems. But, chose to trade-off my concern for the convenience. But, could you simply not create an Apple account in the first place and set up your iPhone without it? https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/iphone-tips/can-i-use-iphone-without-apple-id.html https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/iphone-tips/can-i-use-ip...

sneak 3y ago
You can't install apps without an Apple ID. You can't get an Apple ID without a phone number.
- wpm 3y ago
  You do need an AppleID but that doesn’t mean you have to turn on iCloud. I have a test iPad I erase once a week, and the last thing I can’t automate is going to the App Store app and signing in there rather than during Setup Assistant or from the Settings app. You’ll still get a prompt to go “finish signing in” or some such, but no document sync, no iMessage, no Photos, just access to apps.
  - sneak 3y ago
    The moment you sign in with the Apple ID in the App Store app, it helpfully signs you in to iCloud and you have to go and disable it.
    - lapcat 3y ago
      This isn't true in my experience.
- threeseed 3y ago
  That is because MFA is mandatory. You can always just use a burner phone or eSIM.
  - sneak 3y ago
    Burner numbers aren't available in many countries. Most eSIMs in Europe only support data, not calls or SMS.