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Were you trying to make yoghurt without starting with yoghurt? All you need is a little bit of yoghurt and the bacteria will multiply and sour the milk. Same th

Were you trying to make yoghurt without starting with yoghurt? All you need is a little bit of yoghurt and the bacteria will multiply and sour the milk. Same thing for kefir, fil milk and plant based yoghurts. Mozzarella is made with a sort of perpetual stew at the farm or milk factory, instead of adding a bacterial culture directly to milk like most cheeses. In the Netherlands you can find dairy farms everywhere, and some of those have a shop with some range of milk or milk products, usually what they themselves prefer the most. They know how it works, so they can replicate it and it becomes no problem.

smashed 3y ago
I think I was not clear enough. First there is a floor price on milk. Milk cannot legally be sold below that floor price to consumers. Farmers are prohibited from selling fresh milk direct to consumers. It's illegal. Period. They can't gift it either. It has to go to a transformer to be mixed with, homogenized and pasteurized. Dairies and cheese makers, with the proper license, buy fresh milk in bulk to be transformed. Since yogurt, or cheese, is not milk, there is no floor price. Somehow this often cause the transformed product to cost less than the raw ingredients (milk) that goes into it if you were to purchase that milk as a consumer. And of course, you can only buy pasteurized, homogenized milk, which is an entire other problems. This is the case in Quebec, Canada. Other provinces have different but similar laws. The dairy industry is the only one that is protected in such a way, hence why OP commented how crazy the industry is here, as nothing else work that way.
OJFord 3y ago
> Were you trying to make yoghurt without starting with yoghurt? All you need is a little bit of yoghurt Don't make it sound difficult to bootstrap. You can just use some chickpeas or chilli crowns.

smashed 3y ago

I think I was not clear enough. First there is a floor price on milk. Milk cannot legally be sold below that floor price to consumers. Farmers are prohibited from selling fresh milk direct to consumers. It's illegal. Period. They can't gift it either. It has to go to a transformer to be mixed with, homogenized and pasteurized. Dairies and cheese makers, with the proper license, buy fresh milk in bulk to be transformed. Since yogurt, or cheese, is not milk, there is no floor price. Somehow this often cause the transformed product to cost less than the raw ingredients (milk) that goes into it if you were to purchase that milk as a consumer. And of course, you can only buy pasteurized, homogenized milk, which is an entire other problems. This is the case in Quebec, Canada. Other provinces have different but similar laws. The dairy industry is the only one that is protected in such a way, hence why OP commented how crazy the industry is here, as nothing else work that way.

OJFord 3y ago

> Were you trying to make yoghurt without starting with yoghurt? All you need is a little bit of yoghurt Don't make it sound difficult to bootstrap. You can just use some chickpeas or chilli crowns.