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So what's next? Get these people fired from their jobs for having unapproved ideas? Also, who decides what is or is not toxic?
by droptablemain 3y ago
So what's next? Get these people fired from their jobs for having unapproved ideas? Also, who decides what is or is not toxic?
- timmytokyo 3y agoFrom [1]: Snippets of posts with IP addresses at Harvard, Stanford, Yale, University of Chicago, and the National Bureau of Economic Research headquarters include: "Rapefugees Welcome!!!!! - Merkel"; "bietches are fugly"; and "Its about ching chong taking bubba's job and bubba putting on a white pointy hood in response." [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/harvard-yale-toxic-posts-ejmr-study-meltdown-2023-7?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/harvard-yale-toxic-posts-ejm...
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- flangola7 3y agoPeople have always been fired/distanced/exiled for antisocial behavior. Not to mention employees are terminated for much, much less justified actions all the time. This isn't new, it's as old as time. Bigots can go mask off when they're not on my payroll.
- Paul-Craft 3y agoYou make it sound like it's a matter of academic freedom. It is not. Do you or do you not think that it should be acceptable to use language like "d4mn j3ws" in an academic forum?
- mutant_glofish 3y agoSticks and Stones [1]? [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticks_and_Stones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticks_and_Stones
- Paul-Craft 3y agoNo, sorry. You don't get to excuse 3000 years' worth of antisemitism with a Wikipedia link to a nursery rhyme.
- droptablemain 3y agoIIRC this is a private forum frequented by academics, not an academic forum. That is an important distinction. Should that sort of language be "acceptable?" Well, I find it absurdly distasteful. But clearly it's acceptable to some people. Outside of the bounds of legality, you don't get to decide what is or is not acceptable for other people when it comes to speech.
- Paul-Craft 3y agoThe hell I don't. I, and society, judge people all the time. That's how the real world works.
- tivert 3y ago> Do you or do you not think that it should be acceptable to use language like "d4mn j3ws" in an academic forum? Of course it's not acceptable. It's not acceptable for any academic to disagree with me period. All those posters need to be rooted out, fired, and blacklisted.
- skulk 3y agoSorry if this sounds harsh, but you need to have a little more empathy for those aren't part of your "white boys club." Don't you think women and minorities need to know if their colleagues are posting their horribly sexist and racist thoughts online? Read the examples in the paper and then tell me that the colleagues of these people don't have a right to know.
- mutant_glofish 3y agoWell, if you don't mind being harsh, I'll tell you this: In your woke-scolding, you are assuming the both the gender and race of the person who you are replying to; probably based on a single comment.
- Natsu 3y agoI remember a short time when posting "hacked materials" was a thing people were up in arms about, but that ship seems to have sailed.
- rainonmoon 3y agoWhat are the hacked materials in this case?
- Natsu 3y agoThe IP address <-> post link that required a lot of CPU to brute force.
- Paul-Craft 3y agoYou mean the publicly posted IP address <-> post link? That's not hacking.
- Natsu 3y agoThat's sorta like saying that running JTR on password hashes doesn't amount to hacking.
- rainonmoon 3y agoExcept that isn't what's happened here. What's been published in this case, to use your example, is akin to someone saying "If you use this particular format in john, you can identify 4chan users." Nobody who knows what they're talking about has ever considered anything like that egregious; what's egregious is the idiotic self-rolled crypto that these researchers have exposed by doing so.