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Length of stay is different, but the nature of confinement, and also the abuse and trauma the patients frequently experience sure is similar. While we all know
by sudosteph 3y ago
Length of stay is different, but the nature of confinement, and also the abuse and trauma the patients frequently experience sure is similar. While we all know asylums were horrific, I'd caution readers against underestimating just how awful some "modern" facilities are. Regardless, my point was that releasing people to their homes is the opposite of asylums, and should be preferred to hospitalization where possible.
- egberts1 3y agoit is the “preferred to hospitalization, where[‘s] possible” right there that is causing the rise from 10/10K to 14/10K in suicide rate.
- sudosteph 3y agoI don't think that correlation can be proven, but I'd be curious to see the data. From what I've read, 2/3s [1] of people who commit suicide have never sought any sort of treatment at all, so they'd never present at the ER in the first place or be candidates for hospitalization vs outpatient. If the suicide rate is still rising among that population, then that would probably disprove that. If it's not, then you may be right. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8804173/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8804173/
- egberts1 3y agoOne thing that I've noticed in that paper appears to omit the exclusion of being under medication. Maybe that was the focus for this exclusionary modeling. Still, it is a lot of data to wade through, even under the most auspice of rigorous screenings for a purer validity.