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>A simple way to stem most snake oil is to put all payments for snake oil treatments into escrow till the treatment is approved. It should be a escrow release

>A simple way to stem most snake oil is to put all payments for snake oil treatments into escrow till the treatment is approved. It should be a escrow release when a patient is cured. Let the science and knowledge speak for itself instead of statistic doing the talking. The problem is these drugs companies are the stealth chemical weapons development program for the military.

Broken_Hippo 3y ago
It should be a escrow release when a patient is cured. This just winds up being cruel. We don't understand a number of diseases, and we don't know how to cure them. But we can treat symptoms, and sometimes prevent them even if it isn't a cure. It's OK to make Insulin Plus that keeps diabetics alive longer. I have MS, and freaking trust me, I want my non-cure medicine. Without that medicine, my chances of having a very poor quality of life full of discomfort increases pretty dramatically. Lots of things are like this: No real cure, but we make folks lives better by treating symptoms or preventing some damage and things like that. The only way to not be cruel is to give treatments that work even if they aren't a cure.
- darkclouds 3y ago
  Symptoms are used to diagnose, ergo is a treatment of symptoms a cure? Lets not forget the expansion of the DSM which pretty much incorporates every human being as having a mental health issue or sexual deviancy fetish. There is no normal in the DSM, so would some medical experts start dialling back on diagnosing new conditions to pad out their careers and income?
  - Broken_Hippo 3y ago
    That bit about the DSM is a pretty obvious layperson's point of view: It is easy to say that you fit the criteria when you forget that the symptoms need to have negative consequences on your life. And there is 'normal' - normal is a range. There is a huge difference between being down after a loved one's death and finding yourself feeling that way for no reason or not coping 2 years later. Considering that - there is no way to answer the last question. That's just a "what if" argument and fails to take into consideration that there is a shortage of mental health experts, and there is absolutely no need for someone to do that sort of thing. And no, no everyone has a "sexual deviancy fetish", just for the record. As far as 'treating symptoms'... I have MS. I take medication that slows the disease. If I had fatigue or pain, they would try to treat that too. If it causes depression - which it can - they'd try to treat that. No matter what treatments I get for symptoms, I still have the disease. There is no actual cure.
    - darkclouds 3y ago
      > That bit about the DSM is a pretty obvious layperson's point of view: It is easy to say that you fit the criteria when you forget that the symptoms need to have negative consequences on your life. And there is 'normal' - normal is a range. Define normal? Likewise considering the all encompassing vagaries of some words, as noted in legislation, and the lack of detail that exists in descriptions of diagnosis and symptoms, whilst this makes it easier to generate AI's to replace some experts, its not really helping the patient is it? >And no, no everyone has a "sexual deviancy fetish", just for the record. Define normal. > There is no actual cure. You are uniquely placed to actually find a cure, because I'm reminded of how tolerant (lab) animals are when level 1 of maslows heirachy of needs exists, and I'm also reminded that (lab) animals can not convey information that an owner of a pet or intelligently constructed lab experiment could elucidate. The phrase "Dont take no for answer" springs to mind, and Thomas Pynchon "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.". Survival of the fittest comes in all shapes and form. I know that copious amounts of histidine a precursor to histamine also causes remyelination of the nervous system, so maybe you have an amino acid lead that might be worth investigating. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4705972/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4705972/

Broken_Hippo 3y ago

It should be a escrow release when a patient is cured. This just winds up being cruel. We don't understand a number of diseases, and we don't know how to cure them. But we can treat symptoms, and sometimes prevent them even if it isn't a cure. It's OK to make Insulin Plus that keeps diabetics alive longer. I have MS, and freaking trust me, I want my non-cure medicine. Without that medicine, my chances of having a very poor quality of life full of discomfort increases pretty dramatically. Lots of things are like this: No real cure, but we make folks lives better by treating symptoms or preventing some damage and things like that. The only way to not be cruel is to give treatments that work even if they aren't a cure.

darkclouds 3y ago
Symptoms are used to diagnose, ergo is a treatment of symptoms a cure? Lets not forget the expansion of the DSM which pretty much incorporates every human being as having a mental health issue or sexual deviancy fetish. There is no normal in the DSM, so would some medical experts start dialling back on diagnosing new conditions to pad out their careers and income?
- Broken_Hippo 3y ago
  That bit about the DSM is a pretty obvious layperson's point of view: It is easy to say that you fit the criteria when you forget that the symptoms need to have negative consequences on your life. And there is 'normal' - normal is a range. There is a huge difference between being down after a loved one's death and finding yourself feeling that way for no reason or not coping 2 years later. Considering that - there is no way to answer the last question. That's just a "what if" argument and fails to take into consideration that there is a shortage of mental health experts, and there is absolutely no need for someone to do that sort of thing. And no, no everyone has a "sexual deviancy fetish", just for the record. As far as 'treating symptoms'... I have MS. I take medication that slows the disease. If I had fatigue or pain, they would try to treat that too. If it causes depression - which it can - they'd try to treat that. No matter what treatments I get for symptoms, I still have the disease. There is no actual cure.
  - darkclouds 3y ago
    > That bit about the DSM is a pretty obvious layperson's point of view: It is easy to say that you fit the criteria when you forget that the symptoms need to have negative consequences on your life. And there is 'normal' - normal is a range. Define normal? Likewise considering the all encompassing vagaries of some words, as noted in legislation, and the lack of detail that exists in descriptions of diagnosis and symptoms, whilst this makes it easier to generate AI's to replace some experts, its not really helping the patient is it? >And no, no everyone has a "sexual deviancy fetish", just for the record. Define normal. > There is no actual cure. You are uniquely placed to actually find a cure, because I'm reminded of how tolerant (lab) animals are when level 1 of maslows heirachy of needs exists, and I'm also reminded that (lab) animals can not convey information that an owner of a pet or intelligently constructed lab experiment could elucidate. The phrase "Dont take no for answer" springs to mind, and Thomas Pynchon "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.". Survival of the fittest comes in all shapes and form. I know that copious amounts of histidine a precursor to histamine also causes remyelination of the nervous system, so maybe you have an amino acid lead that might be worth investigating. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4705972/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4705972/