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Stand more than you sit. Get 10k steps a day to help keep diabetes away. This health crisis is a slow moving disaster. How much higher than 50% obesity rates

Stand more than you sit. Get 10k steps a day to help keep diabetes away. This health crisis is a slow moving disaster. How much higher than 50% obesity rates will it have to get before people care?

paulryanrogers 3y ago
Great suggestions, but you can't outrun a bad diet.
- tmm84 3y ago
  That’s the conclusion I came to when I was lifting, running and cycling without any progress aside from the mystery pound or kilo that would come and go. What you eat everyday makes the real difference.
lotsoweiners 3y ago
But obesity is just based on numbers and I’m sure many people don’t really know they are considered obese. The really obese people I’ve met seen pretty content with their lifestyle.
- DropInIn 3y ago
  My dad is overweight but genuinely believes/d himself the ideal weight. I went over the chart with him and still he's eating over 2000 cals a day. I asked him how many calories he thought someone needs for a day and he said 6000.... and he calls himself a "foodie", refusing to wat "mass produced junk" and believss he "knows shit". So someone who supposedly has an interest in food is that misinformed and negligent .. let that sink in. People are monkeys with a tendency to wilful ignorance when it comes to issues of health vs pleasure.
  - sverona 3y ago
    Of fucking course they are. I can track everything I eat, but most of the time I find myself too stressed to care, let alone to run the numbers in my head. If your life sucks and food is the only thing that gives you any reprieve from anger, anxiety, and depression, I don't think any amount of accuracy or willpower will save you from gaining weight.
    - DropInIn 3y ago
      It's not remotely hard to track 1500 minus each item as you go. Restaurants make it even easier by putting it on the menu. Eat a chicken burger at KFC - deduct 600 calories leaving 900 for the day. Self control is the first step to improving QoL. I had allergies to everything for ages, I missed normal food, but despite having severe spinal injuries, clinical anxiety and major depression, living in abject poverty after those combined to result in repeated job losses, I am still in full control of my diet and maintain the same weight +-5 lbs rather than falling to gluttony in desperation to enjoy what i missed out on for two decades ... Most of yall have no clue what actual suffering is, which is what you're trying to say justifies lack of self control. Just control yourself, or never expect anyone to control themselves in any fashion and accept when someone like me decides they've had enough of the bs and loses control in other ways, right? (Bit of a rant there, but really, you have zero clue. I literally had to live on white sugar for 3/4s of my calories for a decade because of dietary restrictions... you think it's not magnitudes harder to ensure a proper volume of consumption when you're living on freaking sugar water?)
      - sverona 3y ago
        It absolutely isn't. I agree with you. I have issues coping with my emotions. That's the problem, not tracking. I am acutely aware that I eat far, far past the point of satiety until it physically hurts at least once a week, and yet I still do it. I don't have any other functional coping mechanisms. You can say "self-control" but what you mean is self-control 24/7, or at least 24/6. I don't have infinite willpower.
        DropInIn 3y ago
thegreenswede 3y ago
We're not allowed to care because of the healthy-at-any-size movement or being called fatphobic if you mention that this is even a 'problem' at all
- sverona 3y ago
  Consider being less online. This is one of those hobbyhorses that doesn't come up much in real life.
  - thegreenswede 3y ago
    Hard disagree. This comes up a lot in real life. Especially in healthcare.
    - sverona 3y ago
      You're in the field?
      - thegreenswede 3y ago
        Family member is. And it's a massive burden on their time and all their coworkers. More than you could imagine. So yeah, it has real world implications that we have to 'accept' the fact that half our population is killing themselves or making their existing conditions much worse because they're so overweight. The member of my family member estimated that easily 50%+ of their time is used dealing with issues stemming from their weight (think special sized beds, extra manual labor for patient transportation, extra resources needed for surgery, extra resources needed for long term hospital stays, etc). So it's a bit annoying that you casually sweep this away as an 'online only' problem when its a massive drain on our limited healthcare resources but you can't even question why we put up with it or God forbid people should lose some weight to make dealing with all the other health issues less costly.
        sverona 3y ago
        Forgive me, but are that many people that morbidly obese and adamant that it's not their responsibility when they're in the dang hospital? I'm carrying around a few dozen extra pounds, but I don't need special-sized anything. The bitter truth is that people don't lose weight because it's goddamn fucking hard.

Stand more than you sit. Get 10k steps a day to help keep diabetes away. This health crisis is a slow moving disaster. How much higher than 50% obesity rates will it have to get before people care?

paulryanrogers 3y ago

Great suggestions, but you can't outrun a bad diet.

tmm84 3y ago
That’s the conclusion I came to when I was lifting, running and cycling without any progress aside from the mystery pound or kilo that would come and go. What you eat everyday makes the real difference.

lotsoweiners 3y ago

But obesity is just based on numbers and I’m sure many people don’t really know they are considered obese. The really obese people I’ve met seen pretty content with their lifestyle.

DropInIn 3y ago
My dad is overweight but genuinely believes/d himself the ideal weight. I went over the chart with him and still he's eating over 2000 cals a day. I asked him how many calories he thought someone needs for a day and he said 6000.... and he calls himself a "foodie", refusing to wat "mass produced junk" and believss he "knows shit". So someone who supposedly has an interest in food is that misinformed and negligent .. let that sink in. People are monkeys with a tendency to wilful ignorance when it comes to issues of health vs pleasure.
- sverona 3y ago
  Of fucking course they are. I can track everything I eat, but most of the time I find myself too stressed to care, let alone to run the numbers in my head. If your life sucks and food is the only thing that gives you any reprieve from anger, anxiety, and depression, I don't think any amount of accuracy or willpower will save you from gaining weight.
  - DropInIn 3y ago
    It's not remotely hard to track 1500 minus each item as you go. Restaurants make it even easier by putting it on the menu. Eat a chicken burger at KFC - deduct 600 calories leaving 900 for the day. Self control is the first step to improving QoL. I had allergies to everything for ages, I missed normal food, but despite having severe spinal injuries, clinical anxiety and major depression, living in abject poverty after those combined to result in repeated job losses, I am still in full control of my diet and maintain the same weight +-5 lbs rather than falling to gluttony in desperation to enjoy what i missed out on for two decades ... Most of yall have no clue what actual suffering is, which is what you're trying to say justifies lack of self control. Just control yourself, or never expect anyone to control themselves in any fashion and accept when someone like me decides they've had enough of the bs and loses control in other ways, right? (Bit of a rant there, but really, you have zero clue. I literally had to live on white sugar for 3/4s of my calories for a decade because of dietary restrictions... you think it's not magnitudes harder to ensure a proper volume of consumption when you're living on freaking sugar water?)
    - sverona 3y ago
      It absolutely isn't. I agree with you. I have issues coping with my emotions. That's the problem, not tracking. I am acutely aware that I eat far, far past the point of satiety until it physically hurts at least once a week, and yet I still do it. I don't have any other functional coping mechanisms. You can say "self-control" but what you mean is self-control 24/7, or at least 24/6. I don't have infinite willpower.
      - DropInIn 3y ago

thegreenswede 3y ago

We're not allowed to care because of the healthy-at-any-size movement or being called fatphobic if you mention that this is even a 'problem' at all

sverona 3y ago
Consider being less online. This is one of those hobbyhorses that doesn't come up much in real life.
- thegreenswede 3y ago
  Hard disagree. This comes up a lot in real life. Especially in healthcare.
  - sverona 3y ago
    You're in the field?
    - thegreenswede 3y ago
      Family member is. And it's a massive burden on their time and all their coworkers. More than you could imagine. So yeah, it has real world implications that we have to 'accept' the fact that half our population is killing themselves or making their existing conditions much worse because they're so overweight. The member of my family member estimated that easily 50%+ of their time is used dealing with issues stemming from their weight (think special sized beds, extra manual labor for patient transportation, extra resources needed for surgery, extra resources needed for long term hospital stays, etc). So it's a bit annoying that you casually sweep this away as an 'online only' problem when its a massive drain on our limited healthcare resources but you can't even question why we put up with it or God forbid people should lose some weight to make dealing with all the other health issues less costly.
      - sverona 3y ago
        Forgive me, but are that many people that morbidly obese and adamant that it's not their responsibility when they're in the dang hospital? I'm carrying around a few dozen extra pounds, but I don't need special-sized anything. The bitter truth is that people don't lose weight because it's goddamn fucking hard.