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How was it misleading? By his own admission he didn’t take the vaccine. Do you agree it is fishy that a for profit Pharma company would choose to forego a mark

by lowkey 3y ago

How was it misleading? By his own admission he didn’t take the vaccine. Do you agree it is fishy that a for profit Pharma company would choose to forego a market of 1.38 billion customers simply because they would have been required to do local clinical trials? I find that troubling. Why don’t you?

Timon3 3y ago
> How was it misleading? By his own admission he didn’t take the vaccine. You posted the video as proof the Pfizer CEO hasn't taken the video, without mentioning when it was taken, and without mentioning that he followed public health recommendations. You made it seem like the CEO decided not to take it because he doesn't trust it, but he didn't take it as to not be selfish. Do you now admit that you posted this in a highly misleading way?
- lowkey 3y ago
  I will admit that when I initially posted the video I did not know when it was taken. Do you admit it is highly suspicious for a for profit Pharma company to forego the profits on a single market that is larger than both the US and the EU combined? Can you explain your hypothesis for why they would do that?
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  - Timon3 3y ago
    Then we are in agreement that the Pfizer CEO acted fully correctly and you shouldn't take this video as any evidence he hasn't taken the vaccine yet?
    - lowkey 3y ago
      We agree that Pfizer choosing not to run a trial to gain access to the single largest market in the world for their vaccine is highly suspect. If you didn’t agree that this decision by the CEO was suspicious, you would have said so and explained your justification by now. Prove me wrong.
      - Timon3 3y ago
        I disagree. There, proven wrong. Happy? I'm not going to engage with your argument until we've cleared up your initial point. Now, back to my question: Then we are in agreement that the Pfizer CEO acted fully correctly and you shouldn't take this video as any evidence he hasn't taken the vaccine yet?
        lowkey 3y ago
        > I disagree. There, proven wrong. Happy? On what basis do you disagree? What is your explanation? > Then we are in agreement that the Pfizer CEO acted fully correctly No, the CEO did not act fully correctly. In fact he lied to the world when he implied that the vaccine prevented infection. He knew at the time that it had not been tested for its ability to prevent infection but he implied we should take it to protect our loved ones. [0] > and you shouldn't take this video as any evidence he hasn't taken the vaccine yet? Yes, I already agreed several comments back that I hadn’t checked the date of the video when I first posted it. I also agreed that it isn’t evidence he hasn’t taken the vaccine since the video was taken. [0] https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/1580894884818726913?s=46&t=Ykx7XWebsE1u53eLf-Xtfw https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/15808948848187269...
        Timon3 3y ago
        > No, the CEO did not act fully correctly. In fact he lied to the world when he implied that the vaccine prevented infection. You are willfully misinterpreting my words. We are done here. Have a good day.
        lowkey 3y ago
        You were being intellectually dishonest by repeatedly ignoring the core point of my argument about the Indian market, even after I openly acknowledged the error about the date on the original video. I’m genuinely sorry this argument got so heated. I just get frustrated when people who accuse me of being dishonest behave in a dishonest way.

by lowkey 3y ago

Timon3 3y ago

> How was it misleading? By his own admission he didn’t take the vaccine. You posted the video as proof the Pfizer CEO hasn't taken the video, without mentioning when it was taken, and without mentioning that he followed public health recommendations. You made it seem like the CEO decided not to take it because he doesn't trust it, but he didn't take it as to not be selfish. Do you now admit that you posted this in a highly misleading way?

lowkey 3y ago
I will admit that when I initially posted the video I did not know when it was taken. Do you admit it is highly suspicious for a for profit Pharma company to forego the profits on a single market that is larger than both the US and the EU combined? Can you explain your hypothesis for why they would do that?
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- Timon3 3y ago
  Then we are in agreement that the Pfizer CEO acted fully correctly and you shouldn't take this video as any evidence he hasn't taken the vaccine yet?
  - lowkey 3y ago
    We agree that Pfizer choosing not to run a trial to gain access to the single largest market in the world for their vaccine is highly suspect. If you didn’t agree that this decision by the CEO was suspicious, you would have said so and explained your justification by now. Prove me wrong.
    - Timon3 3y ago
      I disagree. There, proven wrong. Happy? I'm not going to engage with your argument until we've cleared up your initial point. Now, back to my question: Then we are in agreement that the Pfizer CEO acted fully correctly and you shouldn't take this video as any evidence he hasn't taken the vaccine yet?
      - lowkey 3y ago
        > I disagree. There, proven wrong. Happy? On what basis do you disagree? What is your explanation? > Then we are in agreement that the Pfizer CEO acted fully correctly No, the CEO did not act fully correctly. In fact he lied to the world when he implied that the vaccine prevented infection. He knew at the time that it had not been tested for its ability to prevent infection but he implied we should take it to protect our loved ones. [0] > and you shouldn't take this video as any evidence he hasn't taken the vaccine yet? Yes, I already agreed several comments back that I hadn’t checked the date of the video when I first posted it. I also agreed that it isn’t evidence he hasn’t taken the vaccine since the video was taken. [0] https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/1580894884818726913?s=46&t=Ykx7XWebsE1u53eLf-Xtfw https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/15808948848187269...
        Timon3 3y ago
        > No, the CEO did not act fully correctly. In fact he lied to the world when he implied that the vaccine prevented infection. You are willfully misinterpreting my words. We are done here. Have a good day.
        lowkey 3y ago
        You were being intellectually dishonest by repeatedly ignoring the core point of my argument about the Indian market, even after I openly acknowledged the error about the date on the original video. I’m genuinely sorry this argument got so heated. I just get frustrated when people who accuse me of being dishonest behave in a dishonest way.