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Huh, didn't realize botox could be an effective bioweapon. I get regular botox injections to help with my headaches. It works really really well. Takes a coupl

by Glench 3y ago

Huh, didn't realize botox could be an effective bioweapon. I get regular botox injections to help with my headaches. It works really really well. Takes a couple weeks to kick in then lasts for a couple months before dissipating naturally.

loa_in_ 3y ago
What muscles does your treatment target? It's pretty surprising to me that it helps with headaches. I'm very curious, and very interested in getting rid of headaches of my own.
- Glench 3y ago
  It varies per person, but for me, surprisingly, muscles in the occiput, temples, and around the trapezius. It was amazing for me to realize that tension in my shoulders, back, and neck could contribute to headaches, but it really is all interconnected.
  - bluepod4 3y ago
    Did you have other options for relieving that tension? Or was Botox the most effective?
    - Glench 3y ago
      Like the other commenter said on this page, I tried other stuff first — medications, acupuncture, and daily stretches/exercises for a year. The acupuncture and daily stretches were helpful and I still do them, but out of compassion for myself I wanted something that would work more deeply and immediately to provide relief. And there are no side effects of Botox (for me) which is amazing.
hwillis 3y ago
The Botox-like family are the most potent substances by weight, whether they're used for medication or poison. It's kind of crazy when you consider it. It takes thousands of botox doses to kill you. That's not dissimilar from most drugs- take a thousand advil and you'll certainly die. One unit dose of botox is 50 picograms. A lethal intramuscular dose is ~160 nanograms. A lethal inhaled dose is ~1 microgram. That's crazy. Inject any other chemical into the heart, brain, wherever you want- you will not be able to kill someone with a smaller dose of anything. The next most potent drugs (eg LSD, actually) create perceptible effects at fifty times the lethal dosage of botox. LSD is noticeable at <25 micrograms. Ricin is lethal at 1.6 milligrams. Fentanyl is lethal at 2 milligrams and dosed at 50 micrograms. Even covid the vaccines have 30+ micrograms of RNA that makes the larger amount of protein that trains your immune system. 50 picograms is only ~50,000 individual virus, about half of what is released by the infection of a single cell. Botox is within spitting distance of the lethality of a nuclear fission reaction. 160 nanograms of U-235 releases ~16 kJ, a bit under the energy in two AA batteries or ten 5.56 rifle shots. That's more than enough energy to cauterize a critical cardiac artery, or pop your skull... but it's less than an M80. Realistically (lol) if you pulled 160 nanograms of material from the center of our sun (or probably any star short of a neutron star), it's going to stop fusing immediately since it'll be too busy exploding. I've got no idea what the math on that is, but I'd be pretty surprised if it beat out botox for lethality. Which is crazy.
- atkailash 3y ago
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by Glench 3y ago

loa_in_ 3y ago

What muscles does your treatment target? It's pretty surprising to me that it helps with headaches. I'm very curious, and very interested in getting rid of headaches of my own.

Glench 3y ago
It varies per person, but for me, surprisingly, muscles in the occiput, temples, and around the trapezius. It was amazing for me to realize that tension in my shoulders, back, and neck could contribute to headaches, but it really is all interconnected.
- bluepod4 3y ago
  Did you have other options for relieving that tension? Or was Botox the most effective?
  - Glench 3y ago
    Like the other commenter said on this page, I tried other stuff first — medications, acupuncture, and daily stretches/exercises for a year. The acupuncture and daily stretches were helpful and I still do them, but out of compassion for myself I wanted something that would work more deeply and immediately to provide relief. And there are no side effects of Botox (for me) which is amazing.

hwillis 3y ago

The Botox-like family are the most potent substances by weight, whether they're used for medication or poison. It's kind of crazy when you consider it. It takes thousands of botox doses to kill you. That's not dissimilar from most drugs- take a thousand advil and you'll certainly die. One unit dose of botox is 50 picograms. A lethal intramuscular dose is ~160 nanograms. A lethal inhaled dose is ~1 microgram. That's crazy. Inject any other chemical into the heart, brain, wherever you want- you will not be able to kill someone with a smaller dose of anything. The next most potent drugs (eg LSD, actually) create perceptible effects at fifty times the lethal dosage of botox. LSD is noticeable at <25 micrograms. Ricin is lethal at 1.6 milligrams. Fentanyl is lethal at 2 milligrams and dosed at 50 micrograms. Even covid the vaccines have 30+ micrograms of RNA that makes the larger amount of protein that trains your immune system. 50 picograms is only ~50,000 individual virus, about half of what is released by the infection of a single cell. Botox is within spitting distance of the lethality of a nuclear fission reaction. 160 nanograms of U-235 releases ~16 kJ, a bit under the energy in two AA batteries or ten 5.56 rifle shots. That's more than enough energy to cauterize a critical cardiac artery, or pop your skull... but it's less than an M80. Realistically (lol) if you pulled 160 nanograms of material from the center of our sun (or probably any star short of a neutron star), it's going to stop fusing immediately since it'll be too busy exploding. I've got no idea what the math on that is, but I'd be pretty surprised if it beat out botox for lethality. Which is crazy.

atkailash 3y ago
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