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Eh, that's very old, and it was somewhat of a polarizing opinion after the doc came out. Plenty of Indans thought Apu was fine as he was.

psychphysic 3y ago
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- stanski 3y ago
  I don't know why but society appears to always need to over-correct. There is no middle.
  - codeisawesome 3y ago
    > I don't know why but society appears to always need to over-correct. There is no middle. This comment does not contain substantiation and only an opinion. So I’ll similarly state mine: this was not an overcorrection at all, it’s less action than is due to right the past wrongs.
    - gorjusborg 3y ago
      Viewing any stereotype as wrong is overcorrection. Stereotypes exist because they model things roughly.
      - psychphysic 3y ago
        I'd not be surprised if some aren't entirely false.
        gorjusborg 3y ago
        The ironic part is that the Simpsons was pretty much centered on a stereotype of the American family, with Homer being a really unflattering caricature of the average working class male. Apu, in comparison, seems like a pretty flattering depiction of a south asian. Compared to Homer, he is kind, clever, and successful.
        gorjusborg 3y ago
        Most stereotypes are false in that most real people (ones that aren't trying to fit a stereotype) don't fit perfectly into any stereotype. A stereotype is an averaging of attributes. Humor based on stereotype is funny often because it is accurate to a point where people have to grudingly agree with it.
codeisawesome 3y ago
> Plenty of Indians thought that Apu was fine as he was. An apology was due to the rest of the Indians & South Asians who didn’t think the caricature ‘Apu’ was “fine”, and one was issued; plus even better, the show runners have learned that you can actually make comedy without minimising or othering cultural / ethnic groups. Great outcome.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  One was issued because it was easier than not issuing it, that's it. I disagree any apology was owed when the other half thought Apu was a good thing, a well fleshed out and developed character bringing part of their culture to masses that would otherwise never encounter it. But, it is what it is.

psychphysic 3y ago

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stanski 3y ago
I don't know why but society appears to always need to over-correct. There is no middle.
- codeisawesome 3y ago
  > I don't know why but society appears to always need to over-correct. There is no middle. This comment does not contain substantiation and only an opinion. So I’ll similarly state mine: this was not an overcorrection at all, it’s less action than is due to right the past wrongs.
  - gorjusborg 3y ago
    Viewing any stereotype as wrong is overcorrection. Stereotypes exist because they model things roughly.
    - psychphysic 3y ago
      I'd not be surprised if some aren't entirely false.
      - gorjusborg 3y ago
        The ironic part is that the Simpsons was pretty much centered on a stereotype of the American family, with Homer being a really unflattering caricature of the average working class male. Apu, in comparison, seems like a pretty flattering depiction of a south asian. Compared to Homer, he is kind, clever, and successful.
      - gorjusborg 3y ago
        Most stereotypes are false in that most real people (ones that aren't trying to fit a stereotype) don't fit perfectly into any stereotype. A stereotype is an averaging of attributes. Humor based on stereotype is funny often because it is accurate to a point where people have to grudingly agree with it.

codeisawesome 3y ago

> Plenty of Indians thought that Apu was fine as he was. An apology was due to the rest of the Indians & South Asians who didn’t think the caricature ‘Apu’ was “fine”, and one was issued; plus even better, the show runners have learned that you can actually make comedy without minimising or othering cultural / ethnic groups. Great outcome.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
One was issued because it was easier than not issuing it, that's it. I disagree any apology was owed when the other half thought Apu was a good thing, a well fleshed out and developed character bringing part of their culture to masses that would otherwise never encounter it. But, it is what it is.